Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: More Nostalgia!

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 18:14:12 10/15/01

Go up one level in this thread


On October 15, 2001 at 20:59:58, leonid wrote:

>On October 15, 2001 at 16:57:54, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On October 15, 2001 at 12:22:58, leonid wrote:
>>
>>>On October 14, 2001 at 22:55:30, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 14, 2001 at 22:44:57, leonid wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 14, 2001 at 19:31:31, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 14, 2001 at 11:28:53, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On October 13, 2001 at 23:48:51, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is WCSAC 738:
>>>>>>>>[D]r1b2r2/3pNpkp/3pn1p1/2pN3P/2PnP3/q3QP2/4BKP1/1R5R w - - bm Qh6+;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Der Bringer with "two best options" in analyzing mode finds
>>>>>>>>after 10 plies that Qh6+ is Mate in 11. Funny is that the uninteresting
>>>>>>>>move Qd2 is also mate in 11!! Unbelievable what computers can find.
>>>>>>>>Another cook and another position from WCSAC eliminated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>Miguel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The position is missing a couple of pawns, one crucial!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[D]r1b2r2/1p1pNpkp/3pn1p1/2pN3P/2PnP3/q3QP2/p3BKP1/1R5R w - - bm Qh6+;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So the answer is *only* Qh6+!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Terry
>>>>>
>>>>>Pretty good position! Was not able to see by myself which move must lead to
>>>>>mate. Program see much better.
>>>>>
>>>>>Celeron 600Mhz. No hash. LLchess. Selective search find mate in 11 moves, in
>>>>>0.055 sec. E3-H6.
>>>>>
>>>>>Leonid.
>>>>
>>>>I first saw this position in 1989, I solved it as an excercise in mating
>>>>attacks.
>>>
>>>I am not that sure that I could see the leading move even after few minutes. Not
>>>all the time those "easy moves" is very easy to find. I expected more some
>>>mistake in a second position that real mate.
>>>
>>>>I don't remeber my time, but Qh6+!! was my first inclination, then I worked
>>>>it out in a matter of several minutes.
>>>>
>>>>I then gave it to my Mach III Master in Jan. 1990, it took it 2 min. 45 seconds
>>>>if I'm not mistaken.
>>>
>>>What is the Mach III Master? Some kind of stand alone electronic chess game?
>>>If it is what I think, the last time when I had something similar was around 13
>>>years ago. Then it was Radio Shack made gadget.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Better time than me!;-)
>>>
>>>Try to put from time to time here some position from real life, like the last
>>>forced mate. It is fun to solve them.
>>>
>>>Leonid.
>>>
>>>>Terry
>>
>>Yes it was a stand alone unit, made by Fidelity Electronics. Dan Spracklen was
>>the Key programmer.
>>
>>This was the last programme he made for Fidelity Electronics, the Mach IV Master
>>was the same programme just on faster hardware, a Motorola 68200 32bit at 20
>>Mgh. while the Mach III was running on a 68000 16bit at 16 Mgh., as Hegner &
>>Glasser (Mephisto) bought them out in the fall of '89.
>>Another thing many might not know was the Mach III programme was written in 8bit
>>code and adapted to 16:) Those were the days!
>>
>>I should look at some of my old games I use to play with this machine and my old
>>Novag Super Forte "C" running on a 6502 8bit at 6 Mgh. (Boy that's Slow!) and
>>see if I can dig up some old mating attacks, some which were long.
>
>I have the impression that my first electonic chess game was some kind of Novag
>that I bought in 1982. It was very weak but very interesting as something
>completely new.
>
>My first chess program was Chess Master in 1986. This program was exceptionnally
>buggy but already very affordable.
>
I first tinkered around with an old syi-scy (sp)? machine from '81 now Saiteck,
and the Chess Challenger 9, niether were that strong but they were fun to
beat/crush!:)

Funny on an Amiga 1000 I played the original Chessmaster 2000 as well!
Although in 1984-86 I played Sargon III.

CM2000 was by Kittinger of Novag and Sargon III, Spracklen of Fidelity.

Too many memories....I might cry!;^)

>Leonid.
>
>>I was better I think in those days!;-)
>>
>>Terry



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.