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Subject: Re: perpetual check - my result of crafty 18.11

Author: Steffen Jakob

Date: 06:23:09 10/16/01

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On October 16, 2001 at 09:01:28, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 16, 2001 at 08:29:18, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>
>>On October 16, 2001 at 08:08:39, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>On October 16, 2001 at 07:58:15, Steffen Jakob wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>this is a position from a blitz game Hossa - Sjeng:
>>>>
>>>>[D]7k/4QP2/7p/6rP/8/1K6/6r1/8 b
>>>>
>>>>For a human it's obvious that this is a draw. Hossa was rather clueless and
>>>>thought that white was winning. Are there any engines which show a draw value at
>>>>once (without significant search depth)?
>>>>
>>>>Greetings,
>>>>Steffen.
>>>
>>>Crafty shows 0.00 after some seconds, but with depth = 16.
>>
>>Which hash sizes did you use? Which hardware?
>>
>>Greetings,
>>Steffen.
>
>I used p800 with 64 mbytes hash and my crafty18.10 found 0.00 evaluation in 15
>seconds under chessbase.

That's strange. I have crafty 18.11 here on my Linux PC. The CPU is an Athlon
900. crafty has been compiled with gcc-3.0.1. I use 64 MBytes hash, 32 MBytes
pawn hash, all 1-4 men tables and the important 5 men tables.

I stopped the search after >12 minutes. Crafty had a fail low there at ply 19
but still didnt show a draw score. Can somebody please confirm this result with
a non-chessbase 18.11 crafty?

Greetings,
Steffen.

...

               12     3.07   2.50   1. ... R2g3+ 2. Kc4 R3g4+ 3. Kd3 Rg3+
                                    4. Ke4 R3g4+ 5. Ke3 Rg3+ 6. Kd4 R3g4+
                                    7. Kc3 Rg3+ 8. Kb4 R3g4+ 9. Ka3 Rg3+
                                    10. Kb2 Rg2+ 11. Kc1 Rg1+ 12. Kd2 R5g2+
                                    13. Kc3 <HT>
               12->   3.75   2.50   1. ... R2g3+ 2. Kc4 R3g4+ 3. Kd3 Rg3+
                                    4. Ke4 R3g4+ 5. Ke3 Rg3+ 6. Kd4 R3g4+
                                    7. Kc3 Rg3+ 8. Kb4 R3g4+ 9. Ka3 Rg3+
                                    10. Kb2 Rg2+ 11. Kc1 Rg1+ 12. Kd2 R5g2+
                                    13. Kc3 <HT>
               13     5.42   2.50   1. ... R2g3+ 2. Kc4 R3g4+ 3. Kd3 Rg3+
                                    4. Ke4 R3g4+ 5. Ke3 Rg3+ 6. Kd4 R3g4+
                                    7. Kc3 Rg3+ 8. Kb4 R3g4+ 9. Ka3 Rg3+
                                    10. Kb2 Rg2+ 11. Kc1 Rg1+ 12. Kd2 R5g2+
                                    13. Kc3 <HT>
               13->   6.40   2.50   1. ... R2g3+ 2. Kc4 R3g4+ 3. Kd3 Rg3+
                                    4. Ke4 R3g4+ 5. Ke3 Rg3+ 6. Kd4 R3g4+
                                    7. Kc3 Rg3+ 8. Kb4 R3g4+ 9. Ka3 Rg3+
                                    10. Kb2 Rg2+ 11. Kc1 Rg1+ 12. Kd2 R5g2+
                                    13. Kc3 <HT>
               14     7.13     ++   1. ... R2g3+!!
               14->   9.51   2.11   1. ... R2g3+ 2. Kc4 R3g4+ 3. Kd3 Rg3+
                                    4. Ke4 R3g4+ 5. Ke3 Rg3+ 6. Kd4 R3g4+
                                    7. Kc3 Rg3+ 8. Kb4 R3g4+ 9. Ka3 Rg3+
                                    10. Kb2 Rg2+ 11. Kc1 Rg1+ 12. Kd2 R5g2+
                                    13. Kc3 <HT>
               15    12.39   1.88   1. ... R2g3+ 2. Kc4 R3g4+ 3. Kd3 Rg3+
                                    4. Ke4 R3g4+ 5. Ke3 Rg3+ 6. Kd4 R3g4+
                                    7. Kc3 Rg3+ 8. Kb4 R3g4+ 9. Ka3 Rg3+
                                    10. Kb2 Rg2+ 11. Kc1 Rg1+ 12. Kd2 R1g2+
                                    13. Ke1 Rg1+ 14. Ke2 R1g2+ 15. Kd1
                                    Rd5+ 16. Ke1
               15->  14.47   1.88   1. ... R2g3+ 2. Kc4 R3g4+ 3. Kd3 Rg3+
                                    4. Ke4 R3g4+ 5. Ke3 Rg3+ 6. Kd4 R3g4+
                                    7. Kc3 Rg3+ 8. Kb4 R3g4+ 9. Ka3 Rg3+
                                    10. Kb2 Rg2+ 11. Kc1 Rg1+ 12. Kd2 R1g2+
                                    13. Ke1 Rg1+ 14. Ke2 R1g2+ 15. Kd1
                                    Rd5+ 16. Ke1
               16    17.10     ++   1. ... R2g3+!!
               16->  22.46   1.49   1. ... R2g3+ 2. Kc4 R3g4+ 3. Kd3 Rg3+
                                    4. Ke4 R3g4+ 5. Ke3 Rg3+ 6. Kd4 R3g4+
                                    7. Kc3 Rg3+ 8. Kb4 R3g4+ 9. Ka3 Rg3+
                                    10. Kb2 Rg2+ 11. Kc1 Rg1+ 12. Kd2 R1g2+
                                    13. Ke1 Rg1+ 14. Ke2 R1g2+ 15. Kd1
                                    Rd5+ 16. Ke1
               17    26.14     ++   1. ... R2g3+!!
               17->  35.10   1.10   1. ... R2g3+ 2. Kc4 R3g4+ 3. Kd3 Rg3+
                                    4. Ke4 R3g4+ 5. Ke3 Rg3+ 6. Kd4 R3g4+
                                    7. Kc3 Rg3+ 8. Kb4 R3g4+ 9. Ka3 Rg3+
                                    10. Kb2 Rg2+ 11. Kc1 Rg1+ 12. Kd2 R1g2+
                                    13. Ke1 Rg1+ 14. Ke2 R1g2+ 15. Kd1
                                    Rd5+ 16. Ke1
               18    44.75     ++   1. ... R2g3+!!
               18->   1:01   0.71   1. ... R2g3+ 2. Kc4 R3g4+ 3. Kd3 Rg3+
                                    4. Ke4 R3g4+ 5. Ke3 Rg3+ 6. Kd4 R3g4+
                                    7. Kc3 Rg3+ 8. Kb4 R3g4+ 9. Ka3 Rg3+
                                    10. Kb2 Rg2+ 11. Kc1 Rg1+ 12. Kd2 R1g2+
                                    13. Ke1 Rg1+ 14. Ke2 R1g2+ 15. Kd1
                                    Rd5+ 16. Ke1
               19     1:19     --   1. ... R2g3+
               19    12:15   1/24?  1. ... R2g3+



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