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Subject: Re: Reveal yourself, somebody is using GT-2 on A1400 MHz

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 10:00:25 10/18/01

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On October 17, 2001 at 17:54:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 17, 2001 at 13:48:50, Roy Eassa wrote:
>
>>On October 17, 2001 at 13:16:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On October 17, 2001 at 09:51:16, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>With my "old" Hiarcs 7.0. It is very easy to keep the computer running on
>>>>analysis (I mean, if it is independant of one connected to the internet etc.)
>>>>and to pick one of the 3 best moves which appear on the continuous analysis
>>>>display.
>>>>And in special cases when the player desperately wants to play something else,
>>>>to quickly play it out on the screen to make sure it is reasonable etc.
>>>>Even if it is a speculative looking sacrifice which makes the evaluation drop
>>>>greatly, if it quickly starts to recover at every ply, you can be quite
>>>>confident that it is a very intelligent sacrifice.
>>>> In other words, you could play quite "origionally" even at as little as 5 min.
>>>>per game with quite a stable computer backing.
>>>>That is with Hiarcs 7.0. I'm sure with others too, even better.
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>>This is not an issue.  Trying to detect cheating by monitoring the computer
>>>won't work, because most use a second computer.  Many GUIs now detect "task
>>>switching" and notify your opponent if you shift focus from the GUI window to
>>>another window.  The solution is a second machine.  Now you are left with only
>>>the "game" as evidence.  And that makes the detection process much more
>>>difficult and time-consuming.
>>
>>
>>Wouldn't it slow a person way down to switch back & forth to another computer
>>(of course, I have a single monitor which is switched between my computers, so
>>it would take a REALLY long time)?
>
>
>Not particularly.  IE when I first started testing Crafty on what was (back
>then) FICS (now ICC) I didn't know anything at all about (C) accounts as there
>was no notification about using computers or anything.  Before I got my xboard
>stuff up and going, I would sit at home and use my laptop to connect and relay
>moves to FICS from my home computer.  Bruce and others did this too, and we all
>found that you can be fairly efficient at doing it.  If you play with an
>increment, it is a snap.  The way to really hurt cheaters is to play with no
>increment and just run 'em out of time... :)
>
>Of course, _most_ won't play 0 inc games for that reason...


So _that's_ why I get so few opponents with my usual 5-second increment
requests.  I thought it was because they all had under-age-30 brains, whereas I
need the extra time, having an over-age-40 brain!



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