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Subject: Re: remaining pos:

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 04:51:04 10/19/01

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On October 18, 2001 at 12:20:30, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>Thanks for the positions.
>
>I ran it with Yace, AMD K6-2 475, 30 M hash. In one minute, 31 positions were
>solved. The unsolved ones:
>
>r2r2k1/1b2bp1p/p4npQ/1p1Pp1N1/Pnq1P3/R5N1/5PPP/1BBR2K1 w - - bm Nh5; id
>"WCSAC.0450";

>Solved after 1:29. I thought a mate in 7, that also has 2 checking moves in the
>line should be doable in one minute - but ...

00:00 0 0 35778 (4368) 4 3.787 Ng3-h5 g6xh5 Ra3-g3 Be7-f8 Ng5xh7 Nf6-g4 Nh7xf8 b
5xa4 Qh6xh5 Kg8xf8 Qh5xg4
00:01 0 0 100118 (12423) 5 8.773 Ng3-h5 g6xh5 Ra3-g3 Qc4-c3 Rg3xc3 Rd8-c8 Bc1-b2

00:01 0 0 102960 (12423) 6 8.773 Ng3-h5 g6xh5 Ra3-g3 Qc4-c3 Rg3xc3 Rd8-c8 Bc1-b2

00:02 0 0 123680 (12423) 7 8.773 Ng3-h5 g6xh5 Ra3-g3 Qc4-c3 Rg3xc3 Rd8-c8 Bc1-b2

00:05 0 0 312169 (35325) 8 10.314 Ng3-h5 g6xh5 Ra3-g3 Qc4-b3 Rd1-d3 Qb3xd3 Bb1xd
3 Be7-f8 Qh6xf6
00:13 0 0 927891 (108032) 9 10.314 Ng3-h5 g6xh5 Ra3-g3 Qc4-b3 Rd1-d3 Qb3xd3 Bb1x
d3 Be7-f8 Qh6xf6
00:33 0 0 4190966 (784912) 10 12.309 Ng3-h5 g6xh5 Ra3-g3 Qc4-c3 Rg3xc3 Bb7-c8 Rc
3-f3 Ra8-a7 Bc1-e3 Ra7-c7 Rf3xf6 Be7xf6 Qh6xf6
01:21 0 0 11406254 (4140152) 11 MATE07 Ng3-h5 g6xh5 Ra3-g3 Qc4-c3 Bc1-e3 Qc3xe3
f2xe3 Be7-f8 Ng5xh7 Kg8-h8 Nh7xf8 Nf6-h7 Qh6xh7

DIEP says mate in 7 after a minute,
but mate scores can be different number of moves too.

>k1q1bbrr/1p3pp1/p7/5n1n/PP2N2p/1NP5/1BB1Q1PP/2R2R1K b - - bm Bb5; id
>"WCSAC.0582";
>Solved after 2:49

Bb5 takes amazingly longest from all positions so far i tried. Just
because getting 9 ply takes time. Fail high takes 52 seconds,
resolving it some more time. To some extend this is a positional
determined position for computer. I bet most programs see the fundamental
tactics pretty soon as it's all with check. Only at bigger depths of course
big scores come there. But getting the first time Bb5 seems pretty king
safety determined.

00:00 0 0 3 (0) 1 0.069 Be8xa4
00:00 0 0 170 (0) 2 -0.022 Be8xa4 Ne4-c5
00:00 0 0 1548 (521) 3 -0.059 Be8xa4 Nb3-d4 Nh5-g3 Ne4xg3 Nf5xg3 h2xg3 h4xg3 Kh1
-g1
00:00 0 0 5393 (930) 4 -0.059 Be8xa4 Nb3-d4 Nh5-g3 Ne4xg3 Nf5xg3 h2xg3 h4xg3 Kh1
-g1
00:00 0 0 33437 (7733) 5 0.106 Be8xa4 Qe2-f3 g7-g6 Nb3-c5 Ba4-b5
00:01 0 0 92187 (17723) 6 -0.019 Be8xa4 Nb3-d4 Ba4xc2 Rc1xc2 g7-g6 b4-b5
00:05 0 0 487863 (68488) 7 0.043 Be8xa4 Nb3-d4 Nh5-g3 Ne4xg3 h4xg3 Rf1xf5 Rh8xh2
 Kh1-g1 Rg8-h8
00:11 0 0 1140797 (176338) 8 -0.015 Be8xa4 Nb3-d4 Nf5xd4 c3xd4 Ba4xc2 Rc1xc2 Qc8
-d7 Qe2-c4 f7-f6
00:44 0 0 4469422 (932026) 9 -0.001 Be8xa4 Nb3-d4 Ba4xc2 Rc1xc2 Nf5-d6 Ne4-c5 Qc
8-c7 Nc5xa6 b7xa6 Qe2xa6 Qc7-a7
++ e8-b5
01:32 0 0 9274629 (2250196) 9 0.084 Be8-b5 Qe2-f3 Bb5xf1 Rc1xf1 Nf5-d6 Ne4xd6 Bf
8xd6 Bc2-d3 Nh5-f4 Bd3xa6
02:46 0 0 16698796 (6079007) 10 0.603 Be8-b5 a4xb5 Nh5-g3 Ne4xg3 Nf5xg3 h2xg3 h4
xg3 Kh1-g1 Rh8-h1 Kg1xh1 Rg8-h8 Kh1-g1 Bf8-c5 Rf1-f2 g3xf2 Qe2xf2 Bc5xf2 Kg1xf2
a6xb5
05:43 0 0 34938707 (7140150) 11 2.976 Be8-b5 Qe2-f3 Nh5-g3 Ne4xg3 Nf5xg3 Kh1-g1
Bb5xf1 h2xg3 Bf1-c4 Bc2-f5 Bc4-e6 Nb3-d4 h4xg3 Bf5xe6 f7xe6 Qf3xg3

>rn1qr1k1/pbp2pb1/1p4p1/3p4/3P4/2NBPN2/PPQ2PP1/R3K2R w KQ - bm Bxg6; id
>"WCSAC.0965";
>
>Solved after 3:12

0:01 here. Again king safety.

00:00 0 0 6 (0) 1 -1.450 Nc3xd5 Bb7xd5
00:00 0 0 9 (0) 1 1.278 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6
00:00 0 0 15 (0) 1 1.360 Ra1-c1
00:00 0 0 104 (0) 2 0.843 Ra1-c1 Nb8-a6
++ d3-g6
00:00 0 0 181 (0) 2 1.278 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6
00:00 0 0 537 (0) 3 1.278 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6
00:00 0 0 2127 (237) 4 0.619 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6 Kg8-f8
++ a1-c1
00:00 0 0 3161 (390) 4 1.032 Ra1-c1 c7-c6 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6
00:00 0 0 7756 (648) 5 1.032 Ra1-c1 c7-c6 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6
++ e1-c1
00:00 0 0 28647 (3954) 5 1.095 O-O-O c7-c6 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6
00:00 0 0 35391 (4312) 6 0.866 O-O-O c7-c6 Kc1-b1 Nb8-d7 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6
++ a1-c1
++ d3-g6
00:01 0 0 121057 (34874) 6 1.732 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6 Re8-e7 Qg6-h7 Kg8-f7 Nf3-e5
 Re7xe5 d4xe5
00:01 0 0 172860 (47389) 7 1.732 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6 Re8-e7 Qg6-h7 Kg8-f7 Nf3-e5
 Re7xe5 d4xe5
00:02 0 0 212315 (47389) 8 1.732 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6 Re8-e7 Qg6-h7 Kg8-f7 Nf3-e5
 Re7xe5 d4xe5
00:08 0 0 880205 (270283) 9 1.788 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6 Re8-e7 Nf3-e5 Qd8-d6 Qg6-h
7 Kg8-f8 Ne5-g6 Kf8-f7 Ng6xe7 Qd6xe7
00:13 0 0 1496160 (308538) 10 1.518 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6 Re8-e7 Nf3-e5 Nb8-d7 Qg6
-h7 Kg8-f8 Ne5-g6 Kf8-f7 Ng6xe7 Qd8xe7 Ra1-c1
00:32 0 0 3511874 (585931) 11 1.423 Bd3xg6 f7xg6 Qc2xg6 Re8-e7 Nf3-g5 Kg8-f8 Ng5
-e6 Re7xe6 Qg6xe6 c7-c5 Qe6-g4 c5xd4 e3xd4

>Regards,
>Dieter



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