Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 10:48:59 10/19/01
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On October 19, 2001 at 12:26:41, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On October 19, 2001 at 02:29:19, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On October 19, 2001 at 02:20:08, Derrick Daniels wrote: >> >>>On October 19, 2001 at 02:02:11, Ed Schröder wrote: >>> >>>>On October 18, 2001 at 21:58:05, Derrick Daniels wrote: >>>> >>>>>.. >>>> >>>>Derrick, >>>> >>>>Postings calling people names are removed. That's against the CCC >>>>charter. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>> >>>>Ed Schroder >>>>CCC moderator >>> >>> Hi Ed >>> >>> I don't recall calling anyone names, i spoke about the organization >>>kasparov.com and said that they were greedy to charge people to view exclusive >>>interviews, that is and was my opinion, but not a personal attack in anyway. >>>Certainly nothing offensive enough to be censored. >> >>Certainly "greedy" would have to be considered an undesirable trait. >> >>People did send in complaints. The moderators acted reasonably. >> >>This is a moderated forum. That means that there are limits on what you say, >>and those limits are governed by the charter you read and agreed to when you >>joined. >> >>I consider your telling Christophe Theron to "get his act together" to be a very >>offensive way to phrase what is probably a user error on your end. Here I am >>referring to: >>http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?193470 >> >>I suggest the following rephrasing: >>"I am having a problem configuring Chess Tiger to work correctly. For some >>reason, it loses on time on my machine. What am I doing wrong?" >> >>Now, imagine that you are Christophe. Which format would you find the most >>palateable? >> >>Benjamin Franklin said, "You can catch more flies with a teaspoon of sugar than >>with a gallon of vinegar." >> >>I can certainly be abrasive at times, as can just about anyone. But if we do >>exercise a bit of effort to be especially civil, it would just be that much >>nicer, wouldn't it? > >I think this is nuts, as it relates to moderation. People get emotional and >have strong opinions, and this comes out in their posts. > >It's not allowed to make personal attacks here, but this shouldn't be confused >with criticism. I would hate it if the moderators forced people to neutralize >all of their language in order to say anything. > >In particular, I can conceive of no reason why someone shouldn't be allowed to >call a company greedy. If someone wants to talk about a company's policies, >that seems on-topic to me. What message is being sent by this latest post >removal -- that someone can't say that they are unhappy because a web site is >charging to view content? That someone can't say that they don't like the >content at a web site? What's next, it's going to be against policy to say that >you don't like a way that a program plays, because this might hurt the >programmer's feelings? When you put it that way, I will have to admit to making "evil empire" jokes about ChessBase. But if members find it offensive and complain, then I think it is up to the moderators to make a choice. If they decide to delete it, then it gets deleted. >Eesh, what a boring place CCC will be, with those rules in effect. > >I see nothing wrong with the post you refer to, which states, in total: > >"I thought this problem was fixed in the latest tiger version????? Come on chris >get it together." > >You'd moderate that? That's riduculous. Come on, Dann, get it together. I said I thought it was offensive. I think the poster bears watching. But I did not say that I would moderate it. >Could be worse though. I tried to send a post to another forum, and it was >rejected because I used the word "crap". If some of my posts get removed (and I would not be the least bit surprised if they do -- they certainly have been in the past) then I don't think it is a big deal. I can always repost it in an unmoderated forum. I don't see removal of any post, including ones that I write, as something to get in a huff about. I have had at least a dozen posts removed. Never bothered me once. Each time, I had no intention of offending. But someone *was* offended. And so the post was removed. I think that is a good thing. I don't think we should remove posts willy-nilly. But if common decency makes CCC a boring place, then I vote for boring.
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