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Subject: Re: [Moderation] Re: Why was my Post removed?? That was very Rude

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:35:44 10/21/01

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On October 20, 2001 at 03:12:57, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On October 20, 2001 at 01:04:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>My choice would be to have ICD send out a "test" message once a week.  If
>>one bounces, that handle gets terminated instantly.  As a moderator I _really_
>>disliked trying to clean up a thread that was out of control, fabricate multiple
>>emails with specific message numbers in them, only to have some of them bounce
>>back for invalid emails.
>>
>>on the crafty mailing list, if an email bounces, the user is instantly
>>unsubscribed and has to re-join with a valid email.  That would eliminate
>>a _lot_ of moderator frustration here...
>
>I think it's a bit overboard to take action after one single bounced email.
>_Everyone_ bounces some emails from time to time.  It would be extremely
>annoying to have to re-subscribe to a bunch of stuff just because of a couple
>randomly-bounced emails.   I think a better solution is that if an email
>bounces, to send out another email to that address.  If the second email bounces
>also, then action can be taken.

In the case of the crafty mailing list, _every_ message bounces right back to
me.  In a single day, this might be one message.  Or 30. 75% bounce because
someone chose to change their email provider without updating the mailing list
_first_. The other 25% includes mailbox full, no such host, and the like.

I do the crafty list as a service.  It takes a lot of time.  I am willing to
answer all the questions that get posed.  But I'm not willing to try to resolve
email problems.  This list averages about 10 "bogus" users a week, on
average.  Which results in at least 300 returned/bounced emails a week.  That
is a big time-waster than I try to eliminate with somewhat draconian methods.



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