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Subject: Re: How long does it take your program to find Nf6! in this position?

Author: Steven J. Brann

Date: 16:21:54 10/23/01

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On October 23, 2001 at 14:51:52, John Merlino wrote:

>On October 23, 2001 at 13:12:38, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>My program lost this game against a crafty clone on ICC recently:
>>
>>[Event "ICS rated blitz match"]
>>[Site "204.178.125.65"]
>>[Date "2001.10.21"]
>>[Round "-"]
>>[White "MoonShot"]
>>[Black "PostModernist"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[WhiteElo "2859"]
>>[BlackElo "2772"]
>>[TimeControl "600+2"]
>>
>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 e6 4. e4 Bb4 5. Bd3 d5 6. e5 dxc4 7. Bxc4 Nd5 8.
>>Ne2 b6 9. O-O O-O 10. Qd3 Be7 11. Bd2 Bb7 12. Qg3 Kh8 13. Ne4 Ba6 14. Rac1
>>Bxc4 15. Rxc4 Qd7 16. Bg5 Na6 17. Bxe7 Nxe7 18. Nd6 Nc7 19. Rfc1 Rad8 20.
>>Qf3 Ne8 21. Ne4 Kg8 22. Qh3 a5 23. a4 Nc7 24. Qg4 Kh8 25. Qh5 Kg8 26. R1c3
>>Qd5 27. Nf6+ gxf6 28. Rg3+ Kh8 29. Qh6 Ng6 30. Rh3
>>{PostModernist resigns} 1-0
>>
>>
>>The move 27.Nf6+ wins everything immediately. MoonShot (crafty 18.12
>>on  a K7 1.33GHz) found that in 14 seconds (albeit with hash-tables
>>already full). With some fiddling about with null move rules, PM can
>>find it in 37 seconds from a "standing start" (K7 1.2GHz). I'd be
>>interested to know how other programs do on this.
>>
>>[D]3r1rk1/2n1nppp/1pp1p3/p2qP2Q/P1RPN3/2R5/1P2NPPP/6K1 w - - bm Nf6
>>
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Andrew
>
>Chessmaster 2003 (yep, a pre-alpha version) finds Nf6+ in 1 second on my
>PIII-600:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	-0.53	1825		1.Qh4 Ng6 2.Qg4 Nxe5 3.Nf6+ Kh8
>					4.Nxd5 Nxg4
>0:00	1/3	-0.51	2251		1.Qf3 Qxe5 2.Re3
>0:00	1/3	-0.40	2563		1.Qg4 Qxe5 2.Re3
>0:00	1/3	0.15	3128		1.Ng5 h6 2.Nf4 Qd7
>0:00	1/3	0.30	3599		1.Nd2 c5 2.Rf3 Ng6
>0:00	1/4	0.58	10761		1.Nd2 c5 2.Rh3 h6 3.Rf3
>0:00	2/5	0.47	28873		1.Nd2 c5 2.Rh3 h6 3.Qg4 Nf5
>0:01	2/5	4.97	61949		1.Nf6+ gxf6 2.Rg3+ Ng6 3.Rh3 Nh4
>					4.Qxh4 Rfe8 5.exf6 Qf5 6.Qg3+ Qg6
>					7.Qxc7
>0:02	2/6	11.24	162916		1.Nf6+ gxf6 2.Rg3+ Kh8 3.Qh6 Ng6
>					4.Rh3 Qxg2+ 5.Kxg2 Nf4+ 6.Nxf4
>					Rg8+ 7.Rg3 Ne8 8.Rxc6 fxe5 9.Rxg8+
>					Kxg8 10.dxe5
>0:06	3/7	13.41	514809		1.Nf6+ gxf6 2.Rg3+ Ng6 3.Rh3 Nh4
>					4.Qxh4 Qe4 5.Qxe4 f5 6.Qh4 h6 7.Qxh6
>0:17	3/8	16.47	1697869		1.Nf6+ gxf6 2.Rg3+ Kh8 3.Qh6 Ng6
>					4.Rh3 Qxg2+ 5.Kxg2 Nf4+ 6.Nxf4
>					Rg8+ 7.Kf1 Rg7 8.exf6 Rdg8 9.fxg7+
>					Rxg7 10.Rxc6
>
>jm

As we have the opportunity, let's compare CM8000 head to head with the alpha
version CM2003.

My custom personality finds Nf6+ in less than a second.  PIII 933 64MB hash.

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/5	0.56	28137		1. Nd2 c5 2. Rh3 h6 3. Qg4 Nf5
					4. Rb3
0:00	1/5	5.75	46065		1. Nf6+ gxf6 2. Rg3+ Ng6 3. Rh3
					Nh4 4. Qxh4 Rfe8 5. exf6 Qf5 6.
					Qg3+ Qg6 7. Qxc7
0:01	1/6	13.14	100047		1. Nf6+ gxf6 2. Rg3+ Kh8 3. Qh6
					Ng6 4. Rh3 Qxg2+ 5. Kxg2 Nf4+ 6.
					Nxf4 Rg8+ 7. Rg3 Ne8 8. Rxc6 Rxd4
					9. Rxe6
0:01	1/7	15.51	217539		1. Nf6+ gxf6 2. Rg3+ Ng6 3. Rh3
					Nh4 4. Qxh4 Qe4 5. Qxe4 f5 6. Qh4
					h6 7. Qxh6
0:03	1/8	19.18	549334		1. Nf6+ gxf6 2. Rg3+ Kh8 3. Qh6
					Ng6 4. Rh3 Qxg2+ 5. Kxg2 Nf4+ 6.
					Nxf4 Rg8+ 7. Kf1 Rg7 8. exf6 Rdg8
					9. fxg7+ Rxg7 10. Rxc6
0:09	1/9	19.90	1573067		1. Nf6+ gxf6 2. Rg3+ Kh8 3. Qh6
					Ng6 4. Rh3 Qxg2+ 5. Kxg2 Nf4+ 6.
					Nxf4 Rg8+ 7. Kf1 Rg7 8. exf6 Rdg8
					9. fxg7+ Rxg7 10. Rxc6 Ne8 11.
					Rxb6
0:27	1/10	25.17	4644735		1. Nf6+ gxf6 2. Rg3+ Kh8 3. Qh6
					Ng6 4. Rh3 Qxg2+ 5. Kxg2 Nh4+ 6.
					Rxh4 Rg8+ 7. Kf1 Rg7 8. exf6 Rdg8
					9. fxg7+ Rxg7 10. Rxc6 Ne8 11.
					Rc8 Rg1+ 12. Kxg1
1:24	1/11	29.43	14837127	1. Nf6+ gxf6 2. Rg3+ Kh8 3. Qh6
					Ng6 4. Rh3 Qxg2+ 5. Kxg2 Nh4+ 6.
					Rxh4 Rg8+ 7. Kf1 Rg7 8. exf6 Rdg8
					9. fxg7+ Rxg7 10. Rxc6 Kg8 11.
					Rxc7 Kf8 12. Rg4 Ke8 13. Rxg7
3:36	1/12	Mate15	38472587	1. Nf6+ gxf6 2. Rg3+ Kh8 3. Qh6
					Ng6 4. Rh3 Nh4 5. Qxf6+ Kg8 6.
					Rxh4 Rfe8 7. Qh6 Qe4 8. Rxe4 f5
					9. exf6ep Re7 10. fxe7 Rc8 11.
					Rg4+ Kf7 12. Qxh7+ Ke8 13. Rg8+
					Kd7 14. e8=Q+ Kd6 15. Qxc6#

Steve



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