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Subject: Re: Handicapping Chess Engines

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 10:24:57 10/25/01

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On October 25, 2001 at 13:12:35, Christophe Drieu wrote:

>On October 25, 2001 at 11:19:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>Fritz also has positional scores and I also do not understand what the playing
>>style has to do with friend mode.
>>
>>If Fritz does stupid tactical blunders in friend mode than
>>I do not see a logical reason for Shredder to avoid the same blunders under the
>>same conditions.
>>
>>Uri
>In friend mode, the engine send to the chessbase interface different variation
>line with evaluation of the current position. The interface, choose a variation
>with an evaluation that is equal to the best evaluation minus the handicap that
>you can see when you start fritz in "friend mode".
>If you play with a positionnal engine, the evaluation of the position will be
>calculate with parameters like open line, passed pawn etc... If you play with
>pure tactical engine, the position will be calculate with the values of the
>figures (pawn=1,rook=5 ...).

There are no tactical engines by this definition
All the top engines including Fritz calculate parameters like
passed pawns and open lines(I am sure at least for passed pawns).

>So a positional engine will have an evaluation of the position larger than a
>tactical one.

There are programs with larger evaluation but the reason may be different.

Program A can evaluate a pawn with an average value of 1.2 because 1 is the
material value and 0.2 is the average positional bonus(the positional bonus may
be bigger if it is a passed pawn or pawn on the 7th rank)

program B can evaluate a pawn with an average value of 1 when the material value
is 0.8.

 Choose a "bad positional handicap variation" will be best than
>choose a "bad tactical handicap variation". Do you understand ?
>
>i am french, so excuse me for my english ;)

I am from Israel so I guess that my english is not better.

Uri



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