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Subject: Re: A test position for Fritz7 from the last game against Shredder

Author: Chessfun

Date: 06:59:31 10/26/01

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On October 26, 2001 at 08:21:04, Uri Blass wrote:

>[D]8/5P2/4K2k/8/1P2p2p/p7/6R1/5r2 b - - 0 55 bm h3
>
>Fritz7 played 56...e3 and lost against Shredder5.32 when 56...h3 is enough for a
>draw.
>
>I believe that Fritz7 lost because it overevaluated passed pawns and evaluated
>it's passed pawns as more than the white rook.
>
>Deep Fritz also needs some minutes to fail low on 56...e3 and I am interested to
>know if Deep Fritz is faster or slower than Fritz7 in finding 56...h3
>
>Deep Fritz(PIII850,64 mbytes hash with all the 4 piece tablebases and part of
>the 5 piece tablebases including KR vs KPP) needs depth 19 and 7 minutes and 20
>seconds to fail low on 56...e3
>
>It solves the fail low after 9 minutes and 38 seconds with score of 3.81 for
>white and after 16:28 it changes it's mind to Rf4(probably another losing move).
>
>I may try bigger hash because big hash tables may be important in endgames but I
>doubt if it is going to help here.
>
>There are other programs that need 0 seconds to find 56...h3.
>
>Uri


Fritz 6 also wants to play the losing 56....e3
On a Thunderbird 1.4 ghz, 64 mb hash all 5 personbases.

New position
8/5P2/4K2k/8/1P2p2p/p7/6R1/5r2 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 6:

55...Rxf7--
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
55...Rxf7-- 56.Kxf7
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
55...h3!
  =  (0.12)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
55...h3!
  -+  (-1.59)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
55...h3 56.Rh2
  -+  (-1.53)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
55...h3--
  µ  (-1.19)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
55...h3-- 56.Rh2 Rf3 57.f8Q+ Rxf8 58.Rxh3+ Kg5 59.Rxa3
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 3/9   00:00:00
55...Kh5!
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 3/10   00:00:00  1kN
55...Kh5! 56.Re2 Rf4
  µ  (-1.13)   Depth: 3/10   00:00:00  1kN
55...Kh5--
  µ  (-0.81)   Depth: 4/9   00:00:00  1kN
55...Kh5--
  µ  (-0.81)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:00  1kN
55...Kh5--
  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 5/11   00:00:00  2kN
55...Kh5-- 56.Ke7 h3 57.Ra2 Kg6 58.f8Q Rxf8 59.Kxf8
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 5/12   00:00:00  4kN
55...Kh5 56.Ra2 Kg6 57.Rg2+
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:00  9kN
55...Rf3!
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:00  12kN
55...Rf3 56.b5 Kh5 57.Re2 Kg6 58.Rxe4
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:00  31kN
55...h3!
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:00  43kN
55...h3! 56.Ra2 Kg7 57.Rxa3 Rf6+ 58.Ke5 Kxf7 59.Rxh3 Re6+ 60.Kd5
  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 7/17   00:00:00  48kN
55...h3 56.Rg1 Rf2 57.Rh1 Kg7 58.Rxh3 Rxf7
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 8/17   00:00:00  71kN
55...e3!
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 8/17   00:00:00  103kN
55...e3! 56.b5 h3 57.Re2
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:00  116kN
55...e3 56.Rh2 Kh5 57.Re2 Rf3 58.Ra2
  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 9/19   00:00:00  213kN
55...e3 56.Rh2 Kg6 57.Rg2+ Kh5 58.Rh2 Rf4 59.Ra2 h3 60.Rxa3
  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 10/21   00:00:00  372kN
55...e3 56.Rh2 Kg6 57.Rg2+ Kh5 58.Rh2 Rf4 59.b5 Kg6 60.Rg2+
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 11/24   00:00:00  621kN, tb=3
55...e3 56.Rh2 Kg6 57.Rg2+ Kh5 58.Rh2 Rf3 59.b5 Kg6 60.Rg2+
  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 12/24   00:00:01  1304kN, tb=42
55...e3 56.Rh2 a2 57.Rxa2 h3 58.Re2 Kg7 59.Rxe3 Rf6+ 60.Kd5
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 13/28   00:00:03  2618kN, tb=142
55...e3 56.Rh2 a2 57.Rxa2 h3 58.Re2 Kg7 59.Rxe3 Rf6+ 60.Kd5
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 14/32   00:00:05  4683kN, tb=349
55...e3 56.Rh2 a2 57.Rxa2 h3 58.Re2 Kg7 59.Rxe3 Rf6+ 60.Kd5
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 15/31   00:00:14  9726kN, tb=1053
55...e3 56.Rh2 a2 57.Rxa2 h3 58.Re2 Kg7 59.Rxe3 Rf6+ 60.Ke5
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 16/32   00:00:45  21992kN, tb=2802
55...e3 56.Rh2 Kg7 57.Rg2+ Kh7 58.Rh2 a2 59.Rxa2 h3 60.Re2
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 17/35   00:02:43  70515kN, tb=10466




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