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Subject: Re: A test position for Fritz7 from the last game against Shredder

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 13:24:22 10/26/01

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On October 26, 2001 at 13:15:39, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On October 26, 2001 at 08:21:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>[D]8/5P2/4K2k/8/1P2p2p/p7/6R1/5r2 b - - 0 55 bm h3
>>
>>Fritz7 played 56...e3 and lost against Shredder5.32 when 56...h3 is enough for a
>>draw.
>>
>>I believe that Fritz7 lost because it overevaluated passed pawns and evaluated
>>it's passed pawns as more than the white rook.
>>
>>Deep Fritz also needs some minutes to fail low on 56...e3 and I am interested to
>>know if Deep Fritz is faster or slower than Fritz7 in finding 56...h3
>>
>>Deep Fritz(PIII850,64 mbytes hash with all the 4 piece tablebases and part of
>>the 5 piece tablebases including KR vs KPP) needs depth 19 and 7 minutes and 20
>>seconds to fail low on 56...e3
>>
>>It solves the fail low after 9 minutes and 38 seconds with score of 3.81 for
>>white and after 16:28 it changes it's mind to Rf4(probably another losing move).
>>
>>I may try bigger hash because big hash tables may be important in endgames but I
>>doubt if it is going to help here.
>>
>>There are other programs that need 0 seconds to find 56...h3.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>That's all very weird, I see 2 things you can do to trace the bug:
>
>a) turn off null-move
>
>b) turn off table bases
>
>It must be a bug, e3 is a blunder, h3 is an easy draw.
>
>Ed

All ten game were without TB's and DF without TB access has trouble finding h3
too.

Regards
Jonas



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