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Subject: Re: One mate to solve :-) (was Re: How long does it take)

Author: Angrim

Date: 13:49:54 10/26/01

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On October 26, 2001 at 13:02:55, Heiner Marxen wrote:

>On October 24, 2001 at 19:27:04, Angrim wrote:
>
>>On October 23, 2001 at 13:12:38, Andrew Williams wrote:
<snip>
>>>[D]3r1rk1/2n1nppp/1pp1p3/p2qP2Q/P1RPN3/2R5/1P2NPPP/6K1 w - - bm Nf6
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>
>>Interesting position to feed to the mate solver programs, since it
>>comes from a real game, and is a rather deep win.  Here are the
>>results from PN^2 search on Athlon 1.2ghz.
>>
>>proved that move e4f6 wins, 17 turns
>>PN2:215756548 evals, 11265632 expands, 407.84 seconds
>>
>>Angrim
>
>Hello Angrim,
>
>I'm not sure what "17 turns" does mean, but I'm sure it is not the solution
>depth in plies.  Even after  1.Nf6+ gxf6 Chest does not find a mate in 10
>(28.4 hours on a K7/600 with 350 MB hash).
>
>Heiner

17 turns means 34 or 35 ply. Seems it was far from the shortest win.
I store the values internally as ply/2 to save 1 bit, so my result
is often off by 1 ply.
I was wondering how black could hold off the mate for so long, so
I had it play the mate out, here is the main line.
1.Nf6+ gxf6 2.Rg3 Kh8 3.Qh6 Ng6 4.Rh3 Qxg2+ 5.Kxg2 Nf4+ 6.Nxf4 Rg8+ 7.Kf3 Rg7
  8.exf6 Rd8g8 9.fxg7+ Rxg7 10.Nh5 Ne8 11.Nxg7 Kg8 12.Nxe8 <any> 13.Qg7#

Interestingly, it had a score of mate in 15 ply stored after 11.Nxg7..
but actually playing it out it found a much faster one.

Angrim



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