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Subject: Re: A test position for Fritz7 from the last game against Shredder

Author: Rafael Andrist

Date: 10:05:02 10/27/01

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On October 26, 2001 at 17:40:52, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 26, 2001 at 11:24:58, Rafael Andrist wrote:
>
>>On October 26, 2001 at 08:21:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>[D]8/5P2/4K2k/8/1P2p2p/p7/6R1/5r2 b - - 0 55 bm h3
>>>
>>>Fritz7 played 56...e3 and lost against Shredder5.32 when 56...h3 is enough for a draw.
>>
>>There must be a bug in Fritz7, I don't think this is only an overestimation of
>>passed pawns.
>>
>>Wilhelm needs 2 sec (on PII, 400 Mhz) and 5 plys to see that h3 is drawn (+0.01)
>>and that e3 loses (+0.94). At higher depths is dislikes it even more.
>>
>>Rafael B. Andrist
>
>If there is a bug in Fritz7 this bug is common also to comet
>
>Comet needs almost a minute to find the winning move after e3
>
[...]
>
>The following position after 1...e3 2.Ke7 h3 3.Rg1 e2 4.f8Q+ Rxf8 5.Kxf8
>demonstrates the problem.
>Fritz believes at small depthes that black has a better position and that the
>passed pawns of black are equal more than the rook.
>
>It needs depth 9 to see white's advantage and it means big depth from the root
>position
>New position
>[D]5K2/8/7k/8/1P6/p6p/4p3/6R1 b - - 0 1
>
[...]
>
>Uri

Ok, it really seems that they both give an enormous bonus for passers. Another
possibility is still that there's some dubious pruning (futility in Q-search?)
which truncates the result.

Rafael B. Andrist



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