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Subject: Re: example for stupid/weak CSTal, pgn-game

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 10:40:44 05/29/98

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On May 29, 1998 at 11:28:43, Moritz Berger wrote:

>(no comment) ;-)

You don't want to comment. But I want to comment your game, since it is
a very good example for bean-counting !
The result is clear a point for you ! CSTal lost ! Wow !!
The opening is clearly determinated, since Fritz5 was in book, when
cstal computed on 16th move.
The main part of the opening was not FOUND or played out by the engine,
the opening part came automatically from the big book.
So - whatever hardware you use - it will not affect in any way
the outcome of the opening that was chosen. Yes ?! ok.
Next thing:
The critical move 19...Bb4 is very interesting.

My genius5 or e.g. Junior 4.6 would have played the same way.

So - what can we learn from this game Moritz ?
NOTHING ! Other programs would have played Bb4 in the same way.
I guess you have chosen this game as a kind of example.
I wonder which example this should be ? That Bb4 is a shit move ?
That the opening was shit for black ?
You don't comment on this. I guess you know why: there is nothing
positive for fritz in this game, despite the fact that it played it, and
won.
But it would have won the same critical position against Junior, Genius
and other programs too. Because the position is shit BEFORE the problem
occurs.

I would advise you to post more of these kind of games. They show that
you
only count beans. They show that you don't even replay the games you
post.
Maybe you don't even see the games, since they run automatically on your
machine. Blind program plays blind games tested by blind tester, posted
blind, with no comment. for blind readers.

Brilliant ! More examples like this Moritz !!




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