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Subject: Re: Try this moderate mate.

Author: Paul

Date: 08:18:46 10/28/01

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On October 28, 2001 at 10:25:51, leonid wrote:

>On October 28, 2001 at 08:37:47, Paul wrote:
>
>>On October 28, 2001 at 07:29:06, leonid wrote:
>>
>>>On October 27, 2001 at 17:36:53, leonid wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 27, 2001 at 16:52:40, Paul wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 27, 2001 at 13:06:43, leonid wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think that the next mate is just in the middle. It is not very hard to solve
>>>>>>and still it is not extremely easy. The best one when you want to be a sure
>>>>>>winner but not at big price.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[D]bBQQ1nrq/b2NNq1k/K6n/QQqq1q1B/3Q1Q2/3r1qR1/3q2q1/3RQQq1 w - -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please indicate your result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Leonid.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Leonid,
>>>
>>>Hi, Paul,
>>>
>>>>>since Pretz is in the garage at the moment for a revision of the engine, I
>>>>>thought I'd go over and comfort her with your new position. But I think the
>>>>>engineer broke something, because it doesn't find a mate (in 12) very quick:
>>>
>>>This position is mate in 12. Verified it at night by searching 11 moves by brute
>>>force. Took slightly more time that expected, since branching factor jumped
>>>after 10 moves. Three hours and 45 min. 12 was found already by selective.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Leonid.
>>
>>Ok, so a mate in 12 it is! I only checked until depth 9 with Chest and estimated
>>it would take about an hour to prove that there is no mate in 11, so I stopped.
>>
>>I haven't been able to come up with a faster time ... almost 8 minutes for mine
>>to find the mate in 12.
>
>The most important is that your program find mate in 12. This signify that there
>is no bug. Some time selective will not reach minimal depth and sometime it do.
>At least, it is what I could see with mine. It found in few positions mate in
>much higher level that other programs, including your.

That's because you search more selective than I do ... from what I understand
from your program, if you would search more moves than just checks, you also
would find shorter mates ... you could try?

>If you will have some free time, try this position on some other good program
>that search well with selective. Say me what time you found. I have only Mate
>2.0 inside of Hiarcs but this engin do brute force only.

I have no other programs installed on my comps anymore, just Pretz & Chest, so
can't try anything, sorry! I'm also curious how fast other programs found this
mate in 12, to see where I am with my Pretz ...

>Your result in today position is excellent! You found minimal depth with
>selective. I did the same and at almost identical time with you. Mine is 2.8
>sec.
>
>Cheers,
>Leonid.

Groetjes,
Paul



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