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Subject: Re: Two very bad games by DJ7.

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 10:15:45 10/28/01

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On October 28, 2001 at 03:50:29, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 28, 2001 at 03:08:38, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>Deep Junior 7 - W,S [A13]
>>Level=Blitz:10'+0". , 28.10.2001
>>
>> 256MB, deepfritz.ctg
>> 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 c5 3.b3 e6 4.Bb2 d5 5.e3 Nc6 6.cxd5 exd5 7.Be2 Bd6 8.0-0 0-0
>>9.d3 Re8 10.Nbd2 Bg4 11.Rc1 Qe7 12.Re1 Rad8 13.h3 Bd7 14.e4 d4 15.Nc4 Bf4 16.e5
>>Nd5 17.Nd6 Bxc1 18.Qxc1 b6 19.Nxe8 Rxe8 20.Bf1 Be6 21.Nd2 Qg5 22.Nc4 Qg6 23.h4
>>Ndb4 24.Qd1 Nxa2 25.h5 Qg5 26.Qf3 Nab4 27.Bc1 Qg4 28.Qxg4 Bxg4 29.f4 Nc2 30.Re4
>>Bxh5 31.f5 b5 32.Nd6 Rxe5 33.Bf4 Re7 34.Rxe7 Nxe7 35.Nxb5 Nd5 36.Bd6 a6 37.Na7
>>Na1 38.Bxc5 Nxb3 39.Ba3 Ne3 40.Nc6 Nxf5 41.Bb4 f6 42.Na5 Nxa5 43.Bxa5 Kf7 44.Kf2
>>Ke6 45.Bd2 g5 46.g3 Bg4 47.Bg2 Nd6 48.Be1 h5 49.Kf1 Ke5 50.Bc6 f5 51.Ba5 f4
>>52.gxf4+ gxf4 53.Bd8 Bc8 54.Bf3 Bf5 55.Ke2 Bg4 56.Bc7 Bxf3+ 57.Kxf3 Kd5 58.Kxf4
>>Nb7 59.Kf3 a5 60.Bf4 Nc5 61.Ke2 a4 62.Bc1 h4 0-1
>>
>>W,S - Deep Junior 7 [B68]
>>Level=Blitz:10'+0". , 28.10.2001
>>
>> 256MB, junior.ctg
>> 1.e4 c5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.Nf3 d6 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 Nf6 6.Bg5 e6 7.Qd2 a6 8.0-0-0 Bd7
>>9.f4 Be7 10.Nf3 b5 11.e5 b4 12.exf6 bxc3 13.Qxc3 gxf6 14.f5 d5 15.fxe6 fxe6
>>16.Kb1 Nb4 17.Bd2 Rc8 18.Qb3 a5 19.Be2 Qc7 20.Nd4 e5 21.Bxb4 axb4 22.Bh5+ Kd8
>>23.Nb5 Qc4 24.Qxc4 Rxc4 25.Rxd5 Rc5 26.Rhd1 Rxd5 27.Rxd5 Kc8 28.Bf3 Rd8 29.c3
>>Bf5+ 30.Kc1 Rxd5 31.Bxd5 Bd3 32.c4 Kd7 33.Kd2 Bg6 34.a4 bxa3 35.bxa3 Bc5 36.Kc3
>>e4 37.a4 Bb6 38.Kb4 e3 39.Bf3 Be4 40.Nc3 Bxf3 41.gxf3 Kc6 42.Ne2 Bc7 43.f4 h5
>>44.Kc3 Kc5 45.Nd4 Bb6 46.Ne6+ Kd6 47.c5+ Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 Kd6 50.Kxe3
>>Kd5 51.a5 h4 52.a6 Kc6 53.a7 Kb7 54.f5 h3 55.a8Q+ Kxa8 56.Kd4 Kb7 57.Kd5 Kc7
>>58.Ke6 Kc6 59.Kxf6 Kd6 60.Kg7 Kd5 61.f6 Kc4 62.f7 Kd3 63.f8Q Ke4 64.Qa3 Kd4
>>65.Kf6 Ke4 66.Qc3 Kd5 67.Qb4 Kc6 68.Ke6 Kc7 69.Qb5 Kc8 70.Kd6 Kd8 71.Qd7# 1-0
>>
>>
>>The second game is the worst.  Move 46 junior (basically) thinks it's even.
>
>Junior7 has no idea about the fact that the pawn endgame is winning but it does
>not think that the position is even
>
>[D]8/8/1b2Np2/2k4p/P1P2P2/2K1p3/7P/8 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Junior 7:
>
>46...Kd6 47.Nd4 Bxd4+ 48.Kxd4 e2
>  =  (-0.10)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>46...Kd6 47.c5+ Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 Kb4 50.Kxe3 Kxa4 51.Kf2
>  ²  (0.33)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  4kN
>46...Kd6 47.c5+ Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.h4 f5 50.Kd3 Kb4 51.Kxe3 Kxa4 52.Kf2
>  ²  (0.42)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  14kN
>46...Kd6 47.Ng7 h4 48.Kd3 Kc5 49.Nf5 Kb4 50.h3 Kxa4 51.Nxe3 Bxe3
>  ±  (0.82)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  226kN
>46...Kc6 47.Kd3 h4 48.h3 Kd6 49.Ng7 Kd7 50.Nf5
>  ²  (0.57)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  257kN
>46...Kc6 47.Kd3
>  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 15   00:00:00  491kN
>46...Kc6 47.h4 Ba5+ 48.Kd3 Be1 49.Nd4+ Kc5 50.Nf5 e2 51.Kxe2 Bc3 52.Kd3 Be1
>53.Ng7 Bxh4 54.f5 Kb4 55.Nxh5
>  ±  (0.96)   Depth: 18   00:00:06  3974kN, tb=11
>46...Kd6 47.Ng7 e2 48.Kd2 h4 49.Kxe2 Kc5 50.Kd3 h3 51.Ne8 Bd8 52.Ke4 Kxc4 53.Kf5
>  ±  (0.92)   Depth: 18   00:00:10  6167kN, tb=27
>46...Kd6 47.Ng7 e2 48.Kd2 Be3+ 49.Kxe2 Bxf4 50.h4 Be5 51.a5 Kc5 52.Ne6+ Kxc4
>53.a6 Bb8 54.Nf4 Kb5 55.Nxh5 Kxa6
>  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 21   00:00:37  18634kN, tb=907
>46...Kd6 47.Ng7 e2 48.Kd2 Be3+ 49.Kxe2 Bxf4 50.h4 Be5 51.Nxh5 Kc5 52.a5 f5
>  ±  (1.17)   Depth: 23   00:02:30  70519kN, tb=4721
>46...Kd6 47.Ng7 h4 48.Nf5+ Kc6 49.Kd3 e2 50.Kxe2 h3
>  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 24   00:04:41  129032kN, tb=9296
>
>(Blass, Tel-aviv 28.10.2001)
>
>It is interesting that Junior can see better when it use jumps of 3(something
>that I can use only in playing mode of long time control and not in analysis
>mode)
>
>It cannot avoid Kd6 at depth 24 but at least it can see c5+ in the main line
>
>Blass,U - Junior 7
>8/8/1b2Np2/2k4p/P1P2P2/2K1p3/7P/8 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Junior 7:
>
>46...Kd6 47.Nd4 Bxd4+ 48.Kxd4 e2
>  =  (-0.10)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>46...Kd6 47.c5+ Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 Kb4 50.Kxe3 Kxa4 51.Kf2
>  ²  (0.33)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  4kN
>46...Kd6 47.c5+ Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.h4 f5 50.Kd3 Kb4 51.Kxe3 Kxa4 52.Kf2
>  ²  (0.42)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  14kN
>46...Kd6 47.Ng7 h4 48.Kd3 Kc5 49.Nf5 Kb4 50.h3 Kxa4 51.Nxe3 Bxe3
>  ±  (0.82)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  225kN
>46...Kc6 47.Kd3 h4 48.h3 Kd6 49.Ng7 Kd7 50.Nf5
>  ²  (0.57)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  257kN
>46...Kc6 47.Kd3
>  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 15   00:00:00  491kN
>46...Kc6 47.h4 Ba5+ 48.Kd3 Be1 49.Nd4+ Kc5 50.Nf5 e2 51.Kxe2 Bc3 52.Kd3 Be1
>53.Ng7 Bxh4 54.f5 Kb4 55.Nxh5
>  ±  (0.96)   Depth: 18   00:00:06  3973kN, tb=11
>46...Kd6 47.Ng7 e2 48.Kd2 h4 49.Kxe2 Kc5 50.Kd3 h3 51.Ne8 Bd8 52.Ke4 Kxc4 53.Kf5
>  ±  (0.92)   Depth: 18   00:00:10  6167kN, tb=27
>46...Kd6 47.Ng7 e2 48.Kd2 Be3+ 49.Kxe2 Bxf4 50.h4 Be5 51.a5 Kc5 52.Ne6+ Kxc4
>53.a6 Bb8 54.Nf4 Kb5 55.Nxh5 Kxa6
>  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 21   00:00:40  18633kN, tb=914
>46...Kd6 47.c5+
>  ±  (1.27)   Depth: 24   00:04:50  131485kN, tb=16299
>
>(Blass, Tel-aviv 28.10.2001)
>
>
>
>2 plies later I can see clearly worse score by Junior7.
>
>
>[D]8/8/1b1kNp2/2P4p/P4P2/2K1p3/7P/8 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Junior 7:
>
>47...Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 h4 50.Kxe3 Kb4
>  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>47...Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 h4 50.Kxe3 Kc4 51.Ke4
>  ±  (1.08)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  21kN
>47...Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 h4 50.Kxe3 Kc4 51.Ke4
>  ±  (1.08)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  21kN
>47...Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 h4 50.Kxe3 Kc4 51.Ke4
>  ±  (1.08)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  87kN
>47...Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 h4 50.Kxe3 Kd5 51.a5 Kc6 52.Ke4 Kb5 53.Kf5 h3
>  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 15   00:00:01  299kN, tb=2
>47...Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 h4 50.Kxe3 Kd5 51.f5 Kc4 52.Ke4 h3 53.Kf4 Kc5
>  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 18   00:00:02  968kN, tb=34
>47...Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 h4 50.Kxe3 Kd5 51.f5 Kc4 52.Kf4 Kc5 53.Kg4 Kb4
>54.Kxh4 Ka5 55.Kh5 Kxa4
>  ±  (1.27)   Depth: 21   00:00:15  5314kN, tb=572
>47...Bxc5 48.Nxc5 Kxc5 49.Kd3 h4 50.Kxe3 Kd5 51.a5 h3 52.a6 Kc6 53.Ke4 Kc7 54.a7
>  +-  (1.55)   Depth: 23   00:00:36  13434kN, tb=2168
>47...Bxc5 48.Nxc5
>  +-  (1.85)   Depth: 25   00:01:51  39679kN, tb=7311
>
>(Blass, Tel-aviv 28.10.2001)
>
>Uri

This is a 10 minute game.  It didn't have 5 minutes a move.  And even in a
tournament game, it would get 5 minutes to move.

What it can see @ 5 minutes it pointless........it's what it can't see @ 3
minutes that's hurting it.



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