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Subject: Re: Try this moderate mate.

Author: Paul

Date: 10:46:43 10/28/01

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On October 28, 2001 at 12:26:12, leonid wrote:

>>Actually, my selective (and I expect that this is the same for every other
>>program) search only promissing moves. Promissing moves are those moves that
>>give quick response in most of cases. Not necesserily the shortest response.
>>Checking moves are the most promissing. Moves that affect vital king's lines are
>>the next, and so like. Between many variations of "promissing moves" I left only
>>checking because they provide high simplicity of code and no need for big
>>look-up tables. After having the chance to write my 64 bits program (if it will
>>ever happened) I, probably, will look once again into my code to see if old
>>ideas still have sense. With each big speeding old trick for "speed against
>>depth" become useless.
>
>It came to my mind to illustrate how effective is sometime selective, even if it
>goes much longer way that brute force. In this position my selective find mate
>only at 12 moves. It is mate in 9.
>
>Actually, it is nothing more but veriation of previous mate.
>
>[D]bBQQ1nrq/b2NNq1k/K6n/PQqq1qPB/3Q1Q2/3r1qR1/3q2q1/3RQQq1 w - -
>
>Selective do the work in 12 moves, in 2 secondes. Brute force in 9, in 1 min 30
>sec. Celeron 600.
>
>Cheers,
>Leonid.

Yes, Pretz using my "old Leonid settings" finds a mate in 9 in 19 seconds here
(on a P3/933):

00:19 WM9 09 Nxf8+ Qxf8 Qxh8+ Kxh8 Qee5+ Kh7 Qcxf5+ Qxf5 Qfxf5+ Qxf5 Qfxf5+ Nxf5
Qxf5+ Kh8 Qf6+ Kh7 Qh6#

I'm just now experimenting with some new extensions, and it's a bit quicker here
with one of those, 12 seconds. But it's very tricky to find the right
combination of extensions that work just right in all positions.

I still do not ignore any moves, apart from what alpha-beta skips. I will try
later to be more selective about chosing moves, I think pruning can save more
time. Thanks for your positions Leonid, I'm having a lot of fun again these last
few days programming Pretz ...

Groetjes,
Paul



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