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Subject: Re: Blitz tablebase ending problem

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:58:16 10/28/01

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On October 28, 2001 at 13:30:12, Chessfun wrote:

>[D]8/8/8/4b3/7k/7p/8/6K1 w - - 0 124
>
>In this position playing a blitz game
>Gambit Tiger played 124. Kf2? then went
>on to lose on move 131 on time.
>
>Yet I have all 5 piece tablebases installed.
>If I load Gambit as with any engine my display
>reads.
>
>1  =(0.00): 1.Kh1
>2 -+(-#10): 1.Kf1
>3 -+(-#10): 1.Kf2
>
>The last piece was taken on black's 87th move.
>
>Why did it not play the correct 1. Kh1.
>is it to do with tablebase depth? or cache?
>
>
>Sarah.

If I tell Gambittiger not to use tablebases under Junior7 interface then
I get the following analysis at fixed depth 3,4


Gambit Tiger 2.0 - Blass,U
8/8/8/4b3/7k/7p/8/6K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Gambit Tiger 2.0:

1.Kf2 Bd4+ 2.Kf1 Bf2 3.Kxf2
  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 3   00:00:00

(Blass, Tel-aviv 28.10.2001)


Gambit Tiger 2.0 - Blass,U
8/8/8/4b3/7k/7p/8/6K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Gambit Tiger 2.0:

1.Kh1
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 4   00:00:00, tb=3

(Blass, Tel-aviv 28.10.2001)

You can see from the last analysis that tiger is using tablebases and it is not
enough to tell the interface not to use tablebases and I need also to tell the
engine not to use tablebases in the engine parameters

I did it and I got the following information at depth 4

Chess Tiger 14.0 - Blass,U
8/8/8/4b3/7k/7p/8/6K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Chess Tiger 14.0:

1.Kh1 Bh2 2.Kxh2 Kg4
  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 4   00:00:00  1kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 28.10.2001)


It seems that tiger needs depth 4 to find Kh1 if you do not tell the interface
to use tablebases.

Unfortunately tiger probably could get only depth 3 thanks to serious time
trouble so it could not find Kh1.

Uri



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