Author: Steve Coladonato
Date: 06:46:28 10/29/01
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On October 29, 2001 at 08:34:49, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote: >On October 29, 2001 at 07:55:40, Steve Coladonato wrote: > >>On October 28, 2001 at 16:38:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 28, 2001 at 14:53:31, Steve Coladonato wrote: >>> >>>>On October 28, 2001 at 09:31:10, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 28, 2001 at 08:18:55, Steve Coladonato wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I have extracted my lost games from SCID into a pgn file and have used crafty >>>>>>17.9 to do the annotation with "<colors|name>" set to my name. This is a great >>>>>>feature because it determines which color I was playing and then analyzes the >>>>>>moves only for that color. The evaluations in the "can" file appear to be >>>>>>"relative" evaluations and I was wondering if there is an argument that would >>>>>>produce "absolute" evaluations. The crafty documentation does not refer to one. >>>>>> >>>>>>The command I used was: "annotate mylosses.pgn Coladonato 5-99 .15 20" which >>>>>>gets me to an average of ply 11 on my PC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I am not sure about "relative" vs "absolute" unless you mean how it finds the >>>>>best move, and then if the played move is XX worse relative to the best, then >>>>>it outputs a PV and score for both? I don't see how that could be done in an >>>>>"absolute" way. >>>>> >>>>>If you mean how it displays all scores with +=good for white, -=good for black, >>>>>that is just a design decision that makes the scores easier to understand. >>>> >>>>Dr. Hyatt, >>>> >>>>Yes, I was referring to absolute meaning +=good for white and -=good for black >>>>and relative meaning +=good for whomevers move it is -=good for the other color. >>>> e.g. When it is analyzing when I'm the black player, -1.40 for the moved played >>>>vs -.60 for what crafty selected indicates that white (my opponent) is actually >>>>+1.40 (absolute) for the moved played and would only be +.60 (absolute) for the >>>>selected move. Am I interpreting the score correctly? >>>> >>>>If that's the correct interpretation, I can write an awk script to change the >>>>scores when I'm the black side. >>>> >>>>Thanks. >>>> >>>>Steve >>> >>> >>>That is correct. _every_ score displayed is +=good for white, -=good for >>>black, whether it is in the log files, whispered/kibitzes on a chess server, >>>or displayed in annotated game comments... >> >>I was hoping that's what it would be but there is a game that has me confused. >>Unfortunately, it is on my Linux PC at home and I won't be able to check it out >>until this evening. >> >>Thanks again for the clarification. If I'm still confused, after this evening, >>I'll post an additional reply. >> >>Regards. >> >>Steve > >Maybe you could post the game too. >When I try here I get only score's like Bob said. Could it be that after it >discard the best move crafty sees longer when analyzing your move. > >Odd Gunnar Yes. If I'm still confused or I believe that it is doing "relative" and not "absolute" I will post the game. Steve
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