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Subject: Re: we don't need windows

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 13:55:46 10/29/01

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On October 28, 2001 at 12:33:40, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On October 28, 2001 at 05:09:41, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>
>>>What I see on today's statistics is:
>>>  Windows    97.0%
>>>  MacOS       1.3%
>>>  Unknown     1.0%
>>>  Linux       0.7%
>>>  WebTV       0.3%
>>
>>
>>i do use computers to run my chess programs.
>>i do a little internet, typing letters.
>>
>>i do not need a windows that has ONLY ONE INTEREST:
>>to make my machine SLOWER, to increase the amount of resources
>>the people need to buy !
>>
>>the only intention is do create a reason for the people to buy a faster pc,
>>using more ram, bigger hdd and faster cd / dvd.
>>
>>in the times we had atari ST or amiga or mac, there
>>was almost no big hdd, no cd, only discs and the machines worked
>>without crashing.
>>
>>my atari ran weeks, without ever been shut down.
>>without any noise, without big booting. without installing programs
>>and reboot.
>>all this windows stuff is nonsense.
>>it began with windows. the whole catastrophy. with an operating system
>>melting programs and os together. this is completely nonsense.
>>it would be much easier to separate programs and os. each in a directory.
>>so that you can reinstall windows/OS whenever you want without the need to
>>install 33 or 50 programs again.
>>
>>windows, this means you lose time because you wait and wait and wait
>>until the shit has booted. and when you install any shit, you need to reboot.
>>and when the installation fails, it can be your whole windows is broken and you
>>need to install os + all programs again, again, again.
>>
>>you need a new hdd and faster cpu each 1/2 year because next windows is that
>>slow that you are forced to upgrade. bill gates is working with the hardware
>>producers. he has a contract with seagate, intel, maxtor and ibm to increase the
>>hardware power needed.
>>
>>i will tell you something. in the first moment somebody else
>>produces an OS that is fast, compatible with win95 and runs my chess programs,
>>i am away. and bill gates can die. i am waiting for this day.
>>and i will not buy new windows versions.
>>
>>my palm, runs in an instant. with 2 micro-cells/batteries, it needs very less
>>ram than any windows system and it works.
>>
>>in beginning days of computers there were many OS. and they all were better than
>>microsoft shit. geoworks was an example what you can do with dos.
>>novell tried a dos. the atari had a brilliant tos. and many other efforts.
>>microsoft was NOT better. microsoft was big shit. from the very beginning.
>>there was this need for a hdd to work. without hdd you could not start dos.
>>all those commands that were loaded as overlay after the shell had been
>>loaded. and windows was a big joke. my atari worked. i used good text and DTP
>>programs. richard  langs psion chess. with marvellous graphics 3d screen.
>>
>>in the moment somebody creates an os that emulates win95 and dos but still is
>>faster and smaller than windows (its not a problem to write an OS that is
>>smaller and faster than windows) and does not need to melt programs and OS the
>>way you get a nightmare when windows is broken, in this moment i am away.
>>and i am sure, many many many others will follow me. and bill gates is dead.
>>and i will wait until this happens. and then this bigger, faster, more resources
>>nonsense is over.
>>
>>even now my palm is the best alternative. i don't wanna have a windows ce
>>machines, because this is the same shit that is installed on all my pc's.
>>
>>the day we will get rid of this bill gates i will make a big party.
>>the same party i made when reagan was over and kohl was over and milosevic was
>>in den hague.
>>we don't need bill gates big, slow and fossile operating systems. i want to
>>play chess with my computers, and not waste my time with ONE thought how to
>>install the machine. a real computer makes everything itself. and the user is
>>not recognizing what is going on. he does not need to know about devices.
>>when i drive my car, and people all over the world drive cars, they do not need
>>to know how to install a car, how the engine works or how to upgrade.
>>they have a key, and they press a button and the car moves.
>>there are many different car companies. this guaranties no monopolist
>>drives you where HE wants to drive you.
>
>
>
>There are ways to avoid buying a bigger PC with each new release of Windows.
>
>I'm using 98lite with Windows Millennium edition. 98lite removes all the
>unwanted stuff from the OS, leaving just what you want. Depending on your needs,
>you can leave only the basics of the OS, and Windows ME runs fine with 16Mb RAM,
>as good old Windows 95 did.
>
>As I understand, Windows is not optimized to be small or really fast, it is
>optimized to be as flexible as possible. An example of this is the possibility
>to add customized submenus to explorer windows for example (WinZIP does that:
>when you righ-click on a file, there are menu options to zip or unzip).
>
>There are "hooks" like that everywhere in the system. That makes it bigger and
>slower.
>
>Also, the PC hardware has certainly been a nightmare to deal with. So many
>motherboards and extension cards and peripherals! Windows checks all the
>hardware at boot time, and is even able to detect a change and reconfigure
>itself. Microsoft did a good job, it's hard to say the opposite here.
>
>So I can understand it is slow to boot.
>
>In short, it could be smaller and faster, but probably not much.
>
>It is bloated, but there are solutions to avoid this.
>
>My main concern is the control of the information world by a single entity:
>Microsoft. I'm not going to repeat here why I'm not pleased by the situation,
>but you are right, as soon as we have an alternative, I'll say goodbye to
>Windows.
>
>
>
>    Christophe

I do understand your consern about one company controling to much, but I think
this issue has a flip side. I think its nice that nearly everybody can run the
same programs. You do not need a lot of versions, for a lot of different systems
etc. etc. Makes life a lot simpler for a lot of people.

Torstein



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