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Subject: Re: Kasparov vs Deep Blue, test position game 1

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 19:30:25 10/29/01

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On October 29, 2001 at 22:17:12, K. Burcham wrote:

>
>in this position, Deep Blue plays 22...g4.
>shredder5 in this position would play 22...Bg6, at depth 17/34
>what does your program play, with deep search?
>
>
>(1) Kasparov,G - Deep Blue [A07]
>IBM Man vs Machine New York (1), 03.05.1997
>[John Nunn]
>
>
> [D] 3rr1k1/1p1n1p2/1qp2n1p/p1b1p1pb/4P3/PP2N1PP/1BP2PB1/R1Q1RNK1 b - -
>
>
>"The computer desperately seeks to disturb White's plan. Although this move
>creates further kingisde weaknesses, it enable Black to develop some piece
>activity. This is the critical phase. Everybody who has played a computer knows
>the scenario: you get a strategically winning position, the computer makes some
>desperate tactical lunge, you make a couple of inaccuracies and suddenly the
>machine is all over you". (comment by Frederic Friedel)
>
>Engine: Shredder 5
>by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
>
>  8.01	 0:01 	+0.13 	1...Bg6 2.Nd2 Kg7 3.Ndc4 Qc7 4.Nf5+ Bxf5 5.exf5 b5 6.Nd2
>(254.399) 242.0
>  9.01	 0:03 	+0.16 	1...Bg6 2.Nd2 h5 3.c4 Bd4 4.Qc2 Bxb2 5.Qxb2 Qd4 6.Qxd4 exd4
>(912.589) 248.2
> 10.01	 0:08 	+0.05 	1...Bg6 2.Nd2 Kg7 3.Ndc4 Qc7 4.Nf5+ Bxf5 5.exf5 b5 6.Nd2 a4
>7.g4 (2.175.746) 251.5
> 11.01	 0:25 	+0.03 	1...Bg6 2.Nd2 Bh7 3.g4 Re6 4.c3 Bxe3 5.Rxe3 Bxe4 6.Nxe4
>Qxb3 (6.406.123) 248.0
> 12.01	 1:05 	+0.12 	1...Bg6 2.Nd2 h5 3.c3 Bxe3 4.Rxe3 Nc5 5.b4 Nd3 6.Qc2 Nxb2
>7.Qxb2 Qc7 8.c4 b6 9.Rd1 (16.417.460) 249.4
> 13.01	 3:26 	-0.01 	1...Bg6 2.Nd2 Bh7 3.g4 Bxe3 4.Rxe3 Nc5 5.Qe1 Qc7 6.Rd1 b6
>7.Qe2 b5 8.c4 (50.381.388) 244.4
> 14.01	11:05 	+0.13 	1...Bg6 2.Nd2 Bd4 3.Rb1 Nc5 4.Bxd4 exd4 5.Nec4 Qc7 6.e5
>Nfd7 7.f4 gxf4 (165.094.682) 248.0
> 15.01	20:04 	+0.02 	1...Bg6 2.Nd2 Qc7 3.Rb1 b5 4.c4 Qb6 5.Qc2 Bd4 6.b4 Bxb2
>7.Qxb2 axb4 8.Qxb4 bxc4 9.Qxc4 (298.039.852) 247.5
> 16.01	42:07 	+0.08 	1...Bg6 2.Nd2 Qc7 3.Re2 Bf8 4.Nf5 Nc5 5.Qe1 Qc8 6.g4 h5
>7.Bf3 hxg4 8.hxg4 (625.860.133) 247.6
> 17.01	87:06 	+0.07 	1...Bg6 2.Nd2 Qc7 3.Re2 b5 4.c4 Qd6 5.Qc2 Bd4 6.Nf5 Bxf5
>7.exf5 Nc5 (1.305.550.295) 249.7
>best move: Bh5-g6 time: 92:14.434 min  n/s: 250.339
>
>kburcham

W,S - Deep Fritz
3rr1k1/1p1n1p2/1qp2n1p/p1b1p1pb/4P3/PP2N1PP/1BP2PB1/R1Q1RNK1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz:

1...Bxe3--
  ²  (0.41)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1...Bxe3-- 2.Qxe3
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1...a4!
  =  (0.25)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1...a4! 2.bxa4
  =  (0.03)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1...Bd4!
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1...g4!
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 2/10   00:00:00
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3
  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 3/11   00:00:00
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 Qb5
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 4/13   00:00:00  2kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 Bg6 4.Ndc4
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 5/20   00:00:00  10kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 Bg6 4.Ndc4 Qb5
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 6/25   00:00:00  31kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 a4 4.Ndc4 Qb5 5.Nf5
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 7/30   00:00:00  106kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 a4 4.b4 Bd4 5.c3 Bxe3 6.Rxe3
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 8/33   00:00:00  306kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 Bg6 4.Ndc4 Qa7 5.b4 Bxe3 6.Qxe3 Qxe3 7.Rxe3
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 9/30   00:00:00  752kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 Bg6 4.Ndc4 Qa7 5.b4 Bxe3 6.Qxe3 Qxe3 7.Rxe3
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 10/31   00:00:01  2460kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 Bg6 4.Ndc4 Qa7 5.Bxd7 Nxd7 6.b4 b5 7.bxc5
  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:04  7303kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 Bg6 4.Ndc4 Qa7 5.Bxd7 Nxd7 6.b4 b5 7.Ng4
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 12/40   00:00:12  18805kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 Bg6 4.Ndc4 Qc7 5.Nf5 b5 6.Nd2 Bxf5 7.Bxf5
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/39   00:00:28  45818kN
1...Bg6!
  =  (-0.03)   Depth: 13/39   00:00:35  56420kN

(W,  29.10.2001)

W,S - Gambit Tiger 2.0
3rr1k1/1p1n1p2/1qp2n1p/p1b1p1pb/4P3/PP2N1PP/1BP2PB1/R1Q1RNK1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Gambit Tiger 2.0:

1...g4 2.Nd2 Qa7 3.b4 Bb6 4.Ndc4 gxh3 5.Nxb6 Nxb6 6.Bxh3 Nxe4 7.bxa5
  µ  (-0.84)   Depth: 7   00:00:00  110kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 Qa7 3.b4 Bb6 4.Ndc4 gxh3 5.Nxb6 Nxb6 6.Bxh3 Nxe4 7.bxa5
  µ  (-0.84)   Depth: 8   00:00:00  192kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 gxh3 3.Bxh3 Kh8 4.Ndc4 Qa7 5.Qd2 b5 6.Nd6
  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 9   00:00:01  480kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 Qa7 3.b4 Bb6 4.c4 Bd4 5.hxg4 Bxe3 6.Rxe3 Nxg4
  =  (-0.18)   Depth: 10   00:00:06  1997kN
1...g4 2.Nd2 Qa7 3.b4 Bb6 4.c4 Bd4 5.Bxd4 exd4 6.Nf5 axb4 7.Nxh6+ Kf8 8.axb4
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 11   00:00:22  6548kN
1...Kh7 2.Nd2 Qc7 3.Nf5 b5 4.Nf3 Bg6 5.Nxg5+ hxg5 6.Qxg5 Bxf5 7.Qxf5+ Kg7 8.Qg5+
Kf8
  =  (-0.20)   Depth: 11   00:00:43  12853kN
1...Kh7 2.Nd2 Qc7 3.Nf5 b5 4.Nf3 Bg6 5.Nxg5+ hxg5 6.Qxg5 Bxf5 7.Qxf5+ Kg7 8.Qg5+
Kf8
  =  (-0.20)   Depth: 11   00:00:45  13328kN

(W,  29.10.2001)

Those are the only 2 engines I could get to play it.  And they both change their
minds.  Perhaps I will give it more time later.



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