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Subject: Re: Kasparov vs Deep Blue, test position game 1

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 20:33:49 10/29/01

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On October 29, 2001 at 23:27:37, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On October 29, 2001 at 22:17:12, K. Burcham wrote:
>
>>
>>in this position, Deep Blue plays 22...g4.
>>shredder5 in this position would play 22...Bg6, at depth 17/34
>>what does your program play, with deep search?
>>
>>
>>(1) Kasparov,G - Deep Blue [A07]
>>IBM Man vs Machine New York (1), 03.05.1997
>>[John Nunn]
>>
>>
>> [D] 3rr1k1/1p1n1p2/1qp2n1p/p1b1p1pb/4P3/PP2N1PP/1BP2PB1/R1Q1RNK1 b - -
>>
>>
>>"The computer desperately seeks to disturb White's plan.
>
>The computer has no concept of desperation.
>
>>Although this move
>>creates further kingisde weaknesses, it enable Black to develop some piece
>>activity. This is the critical phase. Everybody who has played a computer knows
>>the scenario: you get a strategically winning position, the computer makes some
>>desperate tactical lunge, you make a couple of inaccuracies and suddenly the
>>machine is all over you". (comment by Frederic Friedel)
>
>No argument there!
>
>ChessMaster 8000 output:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	-0.04	2059		1...Bd4 2. Nd2 Bg6
>0:00	2/6	0.02	42104		1...Bd4 2. Nd2 Bg6 3. c3 Bc5 4.
>					Qc2 Nf8
>0:01	3/7	0.16	124547		1...Bd4 2. Nd2 Bg6 3. c3 Bc5 4.
>					Qc2 Nf8 5. Ndc4
>0:03	3/7	0.09	268740		1...g4 2. h4 Bg6 3. Qd2 Nf8 4.
>					Qe2 a4 5. Nd2 Bxe3 6. fxe3 axb3
>					7. cxb3
>0:06	3/8	0.10	598533		1...g4 2. Nd2 gxh3 3. Bxh3 Qc7
>					4. c4 Bd4 5. Nf5 Nc5 6. Nxh6+ Kg7
>0:10	3/8	0.02	981004		1...Bg6 2. Nd2 Qc7 3. Bc3 b5 4.
>					b4 Bd4 5. Qb2
>0:18	4/9	0.15	1798706		1...Bg6 2. Nd2 Qc7 3. Bc3 Bd4 4.
>					Qb2 Nb6 5. Rad1 Bxc3 6. Qxc3
>1:10	4/10	0.14	6627204		1...Bg6 2. Nd2 Qc7 3. Bc3 Bd4 4.
>					Qb2 Nb6 5. Rad1 Qe7 6. Nf5 Bxf5
>					7. exf5 Bxc3 8. Qxc3
>4:05	5/11	0.11	24328715	1...Bg6 2. Nd2 Qc7 3. Qd1 Bd4 4.
>					c3 Ba7 5. b4 Nb6 6. Qe2 Qd6 7.
>					Nec4 Nxc4 8. Nxc4
>14:02	6/12	0.03	88355386	1...Bg6 2. Nd2 Qc7 3. Bc3 Bd4 4.
>					Qb2 Nc5 5. Nf5 Bxf5 6. exf5 Qd7
>					7. b4 Bxc3 8. Qxc3 Qxd2 9. Qxc5
>
>I suspect that more interesting would be the analysis of these:
>
>[D]3rr1k1/1p1n1p2/1qp2n1p/p1b1p2b/4P1p1/PP2N1PP/1BP2PB1/R1Q1RNK1 w - -
>[D]3rr1k1/1p1n1p2/1qp2nbp/p1b1p1p1/4P3/PP2N1PP/1BP2PB1/R1Q1RNK1 w - -
>Which are the aftermaths of the two choices.  Often, when a computer will pound
>away for days on some position looking for an appropriate bm, it won't find it.
>But if you instead have it analyze the best choice, it will find it in 1/100th
>of the time.  Not sure why it works that way.

Here is a quick look from Yace:

white ( 1): epdtest \which.epd
3rr1k1/1p1n1p2/1qp2n1p/p1b1p2b/4P1p1/PP2N1PP/1BP2PB1/R1Q1RNK1 w - -
solution
no solutions
usetime = 119.00, mintime = 119.00 maxtime = 119.00 tl 119.00 ml 0
       136   0.022  -2.51  1t  1.Bxe5 Nxe5 2.hxg4 {-190}
       171   0.023  -1.96  1t  1.Nxg4 Nxg4 2.hxg4 Bxf2+ 3.Kh2 Bxe1 4.gxh5
                               {-150}
       233   0.023  -0.33  1t  1.hxg4 Bxg4 {0}
       377   0.024  -0.19  1t  1.Nd2 {0}
       400   0.024  -0.19  1.  1.Nd2 {0}
       595   0.026  -0.27  2t  1.Nd2 Qc7 {0}
      1934   0.031  -0.27  2.  1.Nd2 Qc7 {0}
      4009   0.039  -0.20  3t  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Nf5 {0}
      5939   0.057  -0.20  3.  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Nf5 {0}
     10858   0.074  -0.21  4t  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Nf5 gxh3 3.Bxh3 {0}
     21626   0.108  -0.21  4.  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Nf5 gxh3 3.Bxh3 {0}
     43783   0.180  -0.21  5t  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Nf5 gxh3 3.Bxh3 {0}
     87487   0.306  -0.21  5.  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Nf5 gxh3 3.Bxh3 {0}
    219714   0.700  -0.21  6t  1.Nd2 gxh3 2.Bxh3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Bg4 4.Nc4 Qc5 {10}
    395772   1.178  -0.21  6.  1.Nd2 gxh3 2.Bxh3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Bg4 4.Nc4 Qc5 {10}
   1326752   4.087  -0.17  7t  1.Nd2 Re6 2.Ndc4 Qa7 3.b4 gxh3 4.Bxh3 {0}
   1716638   5.156  -0.17  7.  1.Nd2 Re6 2.Ndc4 Qa7 3.b4 gxh3 4.Bxh3 {0}
   3042231   9.207  -0.20  8t  1.Nd2 gxh3 2.Bxh3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Bg4 4.Bf1 Nc5
                               5.Qe1 Rd6 {10}
   4862574  14.438  -0.20  8.  1.Nd2 gxh3 2.Bxh3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Bg4 4.Bf1 Nc5
                               5.Qe1 Rd6 {10}
  12010773  37.313  -0.11  9t  1.Nd2 gxh3 2.Bxh3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Bg4 4.Bf1 Nc5
                               5.Qe1 Rd6 6.Bc4 {10}
  15320678  46.985  -0.11  9.  1.Nd2 gxh3 2.Bxh3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Bg4 4.Bf1 Nc5
                               5.Qe1 Rd6 6.Bc4 {10}
  35597988  1:49.6  -0.11 10t  1.Nd2 gxh3 2.Bxh3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Bg4 4.Bg2 Qc5
                               5.Rc3 Qb5 6.Rd3 c5 {10}
  38968912  1:59.0  -0.11 10u. 1.Nd2 gxh3 2.Bxh3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Bg4 4.Bg2 Qc5
                               5.Rc3 Qb5 6.Rd3 c5 {10}
38968912 Nodes, 70.24% Leavenodes, 327495 Nodes/sec
36977270 eval, 52.13% score, 138707191 genmoves, 43.33% captures le 232/304
ext: pawn 22423, rcp 100452, chk 238036, repchk 52541, null 129, prune 1069866
htable: 0 store, 37791165 rejected, 37791313 probe, 0.0% f/p, 0.0% f/s
egtb probes 0, found 0 max_depth 31
3rr1k1/1p1n1p2/1qp2nbp/p1b1p1p1/4P3/PP2N1PP/1BP2PB1/R1Q1RNK1 w - -
solution
no solutions
usetime = 119.00, mintime = 119.00 maxtime = 119.00 tl 119.00 ml 0
         8   0.000  -3.33  1t  1.Bxe5 Nxe5 {-270}
       125   0.001  -0.64  1t  1.Rd1 Nxe4 2.Bxe4 Bxe4 3.Bxe5 Rxe5 4.Rxd7 {-20}
       204   0.001  -0.24  1t  1.Nd2 {0}
       228   0.001  -0.24  1.  1.Nd2 {0}
       360   0.002  -0.31  2t  1.Nd2 Qc7 {0}
       965   0.007  -0.31  2.  1.Nd2 Qc7 {0}
      2697   0.015  -0.21  3t  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Kh2 {0}
      3257   0.020  -0.21  3.  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Kh2 {0}
      7488   0.037  -0.24  4t  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Kh2 b5 {0}
     10564   0.050  -0.24  4.  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Kh2 b5 {0}
     41478   0.152  -0.25  5t  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.c4 b5 3.Qc3 {0}
     60079   0.209  -0.25  5.  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.c4 b5 3.Qc3 {0}
    129423   0.435  -0.27  6t  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Qd1 Bh5 3.Qc1 b5 {0}
    228073   0.708  -0.27  6.  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.Qd1 Bh5 3.Qc1 b5 {0}
    774192   2.369  -0.23  7t  1.Nd2 Re6 2.Bc3 Qc7 3.b4 Bxe3 4.Rxe3 {10}
   1032514   3.146  -0.23  7.  1.Nd2 Re6 2.Bc3 Qc7 3.b4 Bxe3 4.Rxe3 {10}
   3526131  11.119  -0.23  8t  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.c3 Re6 3.b4 Bxe3 4.Rxe3 Rd6 5.Qc2
                               {10}
   4498053  13.966  -0.23  8.  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.c3 Re6 3.b4 Bxe3 4.Rxe3 Rd6 5.Qc2
                               {10}
  11916975  36.831  -0.20  9t  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.c3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Nc5 4.Qc2 a4 5.b4
                               Qd6 {10}
  14267498  43.668  -0.20  9.  1.Nd2 Qc7 2.c3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Nc5 4.Qc2 a4 5.b4
                               Qd6 {10}
  38890946  1:59.0  -0.20  9f. 1.Nd2 Qc7 2.c3 Bxe3 3.Rxe3 Nc5 4.Qc2 a4 5.b4
                               Qd6 {10}
38890946 Nodes, 75.48% Leavenodes, 326842 Nodes/sec
37618256 eval, 52.21% score, 123340209 genmoves, 53.66% captures le 218/275
ext: pawn 4273, rcp 79318, chk 114012, repchk 20864, null 58, prune 974191
htable: 0 store, 38070403 rejected, 38070424 probe, 0.0% f/p, 0.0% f/s
egtb probes 0, found 0 max_depth 30




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