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Subject: Re: example for stupid/weak Fritz5, pgn-game

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 16:00:19 05/29/98

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On May 29, 1998 at 17:21:56, Mark Young wrote:

>On May 29, 1998 at 16:11:12, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On May 29, 1998 at 09:04:26, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>>The following game was played yesterday night.
>>>I used the commercial CSTal that is in the shops. Fritz is the version
>>>from the junior CD, 44 MB hash and powerbooks.
>>>Both programs have same machines. I don't understand why Fritz5 made
>>>such a big tactical mistake.
>>
>>Fritz5 did not do a big tactical mistake
>>18...Nxe4 is a mistake but this mistake is typical to computer programs
>>Genius3 also need some minutes in order not to do this mistake.
>>It is a good test position for computers.
>>
>>18...Rd8 (genius3) or 18...Qc5 (by fritz5 after a long time-near 20
>>minutes)
>>were probably better.
>>
>>>But look yourself. Also the endgame was
>>>weak. More games following soon.
>>>
>>>
>>>[Event "?"]
>>>[Site "40/120 k6/200"]
>>>[Date "????.??.??"]
>>>[Round "1"]
>>>[White "CSystem Tal"]
>>>[Black "Fritz5"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>
>>>1. b3 e5 2. h3
>>
>>is this move in the opening book of CSystem Tal or it is your move
>>to get fritz5 out of the opening book?
>>
>You did not answer this. Please do. If you made this move to get Fritz 5
>out of book. The game is bogus. It would not be right to force fritz 5
>out of book. The opening book is part of the program. This is a rare
>line to be sure. If I started choosing the openings for a computer
>program. I to could get much better results with any program.
>

whatever it is it is a lemon move.  Play that against a GM and CSTal
will
look as bad or worse than Fritz did playing the other side.  It's a
waste
of time at a point in the game where there is no time to waste...



>
>>> d5 3. Bb2 Bd6 4. e3 Nf6 5. d4 exd4 6. Qxd4 Bf5 7. Qa4+ c6
>>>8. Bd3
>>>Bxd3 9. cxd3 Na6 10. Ba3 Bxa3 11. Qxa3 d4 12. e4 Qb6 13. Nf3 Nb4 14. O-O
>>>Nc2
>>>15. Qd6 Nxa1 16. Na3 Nxb3 17. Nc4 Qb5 18. Rb1 Nxe4 19. Re1 Nc5 20. Nxd4
>>>Ne6 21.
>>>Rxe4 Qd5 22. Nxe6 Qxd6 23. Nxd6+ Ke7 24. Nf5+ Kf6 25. Nexg7 Rag8 26. Rb4
>>>b5 27.
>>>Rg4 h5 28. Rg3 h4 29. Rg4 Rh7 30. d4 a5 31. Kf1 b4 32. Ke2 Rgxg7 33.
>>>Nxg7 Rxg7
>>>34. Rxg7 Kxg7 35. Kd3 f5 36. g3 f4 37. g4 a4 38. Kc4 1-0



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