Author: Terry McCracken
Date: 19:32:55 10/31/01
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On October 31, 2001 at 18:58:01, John Merlino wrote: >On October 31, 2001 at 03:28:12, Terry McCracken wrote: > >>On October 30, 2001 at 19:49:30, John Merlino wrote: >> >>>On October 30, 2001 at 18:24:41, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>[D]r5k1/ppp2r1p/3p3b/3Pn3/1n2PPp1/1P2K1P1/PBB1N2q/R2Q3R B >>>> >>>> >>>>How do your programmes evaluate this position? >>>>Do they find forced mate? >>>> >>>>Terry >>> >>>CM8000 does not find the mate in under 10 minutes on my PIII-600. It sees: >>> >>>1...Rxf4 2.Rxh2 Rf3+ 3.Kd4 c5+ 4.dxc6ep b5 5.Bd3 Nexc6+ 6.Kc3 Bg7+ 7.Kd2 Rxd3+ >>>8.Ke1 >>> >>>with an eval of -1.79. Is this the right line, and CM just hasn't seen far >>>enough yet? Is there really a forced mate? >>> >>Yes it is! Fritz with help finds a mate in 14, it was shorter in the >>actual game. >> >>I did this quickly so a shorter mate may exist? >> >> >>1...Rf4! 2.Rxh2..Rf3+ 3.Kd4..Bg7!!4.Rxh7..Rxh7 5.Ng1..c5+ 6.dxc ep. ..Nbc6+ >>7.Kd5..Nb4+ 8.Kd4..Ned3+ 9.e5..Bxe5+ 10.Kc4..Rc8+ 11.Kb5..Rc5+ 12.Ka4..Nxb2+ >>13.Kxb4..Bc3# >>>jm >>But mate it is! >> >> Terry > >There are several problems with this line: > >-- 4.Rxh7 may not be optimal. How does Black respond after 4.Ng1? >-- 4...Rxh7 is not a legal move -- I assume you mean Kxh7? >-- After 7...Nb4+, 8.Kxd6 is definitely preferable to the King retreating back >to d4. 8.Kd4 leads to Mate in 11, according to Chessmaster. It is DEFINITELY not >Mate in 6 (as suggested by your line above). 8.Kxd6 is by far the best move, >although it should be an easy win for Black after that: > >8...Rd8+ 9.Kc7 Rxd1 10.Bxd1 Rf7+ 11.Kd6 etc.... > >jm Yeah Kxh7...egads, I'm losing it!;) Well it's mate anyways:o) Terry
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