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Subject: Re: KRBKPP

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 02:22:36 11/01/01

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On October 30, 2001 at 15:58:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 30, 2001 at 15:53:24, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>
>>On October 30, 2001 at 15:40:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>if it does that it will almost certainly end in a draw.  The KRB vs KRP is
>>>_not_ going to be lost.  And in the meantime, it is going to save me a _lot_
>>>of 0 scores, because my opponents think that KRB vs KRP is winning for the
>>>KRB.  When it isn't.
>>
>>I don't understand, why you think, that it saves a lot draws. I would think, any
>>human opponent, who can reach such a position will very well know, what he is
>>doing, and not accidently trade his last pawn away. Computer opponents, that
>>have been a bit matured, will do the same (it is only a few minutes of work, to
>>do it this or another way).

>It saves draws because I have seen _several_ chess engines win a piece, and
>then allow trades that take it to a piece up ending that is a dead draw.

You certainly have seen more games than me. In my experience, all the stronger
engines at ICC won't allow this easily (when it is not forced for some reason).

>I
>don't want to draw something I might can win later on.  Of course, I don't
>handle KRBP vs KRPP in my eval right now since both sides have pawns and I
>consider it winnable by either side.  But if white gives up that pawn, then
>I want to know that now I can't win even though I have a material advantage.

Sure.

-- Dieter




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