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Subject: Re: So which is top now?

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 23:27:26 11/01/01

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On November 01, 2001 at 20:03:57, stuart taylor wrote:

>On November 01, 2001 at 12:19:21, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 2001 at 10:58:11, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On November 01, 2001 at 10:35:00, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 01, 2001 at 10:24:08, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>According to available results, which looks strongest?
>>>>>1.GT
>>>>>2.CT
>>>>>3.Fritz 7.0
>>>>>4.DF
>>>>>5.Shredder 5.32
>>>>>6.Other
>>>>>
>>>>>I would guess the order is something like
>>>>>
>>>>>1.DF
>>>>>2.GT
>>>>>3.Shr. 5.32
>>>>>4.Fr.7.0
>>>>>5.CT
>>>>>6.Others
>>>>>
>>>>>And, which of them are due for a patch (Or imminent upgrade) which will make
>>>>>their results better?
>>>>>
>>>>>And does anyone know what is due out new in the next 6 weeks (because then I
>>>>>will be passing through the Chess shop in London where I normally buy my
>>>>>programs)?
>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>
>>>>I would say:
>>>>
>>>>1.Fritz 7 (no mmx)
>>>>2.CT
>>>>3.GT
>>>>4.DF/DJ7/Shredder 5.32
>>>>
>>>>Very close in the top though, depends on Time, hardware and operators :)
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Jonas
>>>
>>>Sorry, I forgot Junior.
>>>I'm thinking mainly of long time controls.
>>>And do you mean CT14? Or higher?
>>>ssdf and others put GT2 significantly higher than CT14.
>>>I realize of course that you have done extensive testing, though that looks to
>>>me like the equivalent of about 15 mins. per game (on average) if it were on an
>>>AMD 1.4 Ghz.(I mean, the same moves might have been played with that).
>>>Regards
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>Sorry i meant
>>2.GT
>>3.CT
>>
>>You cannot compare hardware like that, Standard TC is Standard TC no matter what
>>hardware you use. Although i wouldn't be surprised if some engines would do
>>better on faster hardware and others worse. 40/120+40/60+30 on a Celeron 500 Mhz
>>is not equivalent to 15 min per game on an AMD 1.4 Ghz.
>>
>>Regards
>>Jonas
>
>Sorry, I thought it was 40/40 etc.
>And, what is "standard TC?" It looks like something interesting! What? that the
>speed is the same on any hardware? How would you get that?
>regards,
>S.Taylor

The 40/40+40/40+40 games i played with Fritz 7 was done on a 900 Mhz T-bird.
Standard TC= 40/120+20/60+30.(is the TC i use for my other live games where is
use a Celeron 500 Mhz)
What do you mean with "that the speed is the same on any hardware?)and how do
you come to the conclusion, that i said that in my previous post? :)

Regards
Jonas



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