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Subject: Re: So which is top now?

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 04:22:58 11/02/01

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On November 02, 2001 at 02:27:26, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>On November 01, 2001 at 20:03:57, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 2001 at 12:19:21, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>
>>>On November 01, 2001 at 10:58:11, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 01, 2001 at 10:35:00, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 01, 2001 at 10:24:08, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>According to available results, which looks strongest?
>>>>>>1.GT
>>>>>>2.CT
>>>>>>3.Fritz 7.0
>>>>>>4.DF
>>>>>>5.Shredder 5.32
>>>>>>6.Other
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would guess the order is something like
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1.DF
>>>>>>2.GT
>>>>>>3.Shr. 5.32
>>>>>>4.Fr.7.0
>>>>>>5.CT
>>>>>>6.Others
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And, which of them are due for a patch (Or imminent upgrade) which will make
>>>>>>their results better?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And does anyone know what is due out new in the next 6 weeks (because then I
>>>>>>will be passing through the Chess shop in London where I normally buy my
>>>>>>programs)?
>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>>
>>>>>I would say:
>>>>>
>>>>>1.Fritz 7 (no mmx)
>>>>>2.CT
>>>>>3.GT
>>>>>4.DF/DJ7/Shredder 5.32
>>>>>
>>>>>Very close in the top though, depends on Time, hardware and operators :)
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>Jonas
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, I forgot Junior.
>>>>I'm thinking mainly of long time controls.
>>>>And do you mean CT14? Or higher?
>>>>ssdf and others put GT2 significantly higher than CT14.
>>>>I realize of course that you have done extensive testing, though that looks to
>>>>me like the equivalent of about 15 mins. per game (on average) if it were on an
>>>>AMD 1.4 Ghz.(I mean, the same moves might have been played with that).
>>>>Regards
>>>>S.Taylor
>>>
>>>Sorry i meant
>>>2.GT
>>>3.CT
>>>
>>>You cannot compare hardware like that, Standard TC is Standard TC no matter what
>>>hardware you use. Although i wouldn't be surprised if some engines would do
>>>better on faster hardware and others worse. 40/120+40/60+30 on a Celeron 500 Mhz
>>>is not equivalent to 15 min per game on an AMD 1.4 Ghz.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Jonas
>>
>>Sorry, I thought it was 40/40 etc.
>>And, what is "standard TC?" It looks like something interesting! What? that the
>>speed is the same on any hardware? How would you get that?
>>regards,
>>S.Taylor
>
>The 40/40+40/40+40 games i played with Fritz 7 was done on a 900 Mhz T-bird.
>Standard TC= 40/120+20/60+30.(is the TC i use for my other live games where is
>use a Celeron 500 Mhz)
>What do you mean with "that the speed is the same on any hardware?)and how do
>you come to the conclusion, that i said that in my previous post? :)
>
>Regards
>Jonas
Pure imagination!
So I STILL don't know what standard TC means
Oh! Time control???
S.Taylor



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