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Subject: Re: So which is top now?

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 09:28:37 11/02/01

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On November 02, 2001 at 07:22:58, stuart taylor wrote:

>On November 02, 2001 at 02:27:26, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 2001 at 20:03:57, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On November 01, 2001 at 12:19:21, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 01, 2001 at 10:58:11, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 01, 2001 at 10:35:00, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 01, 2001 at 10:24:08, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>According to available results, which looks strongest?
>>>>>>>1.GT
>>>>>>>2.CT
>>>>>>>3.Fritz 7.0
>>>>>>>4.DF
>>>>>>>5.Shredder 5.32
>>>>>>>6.Other
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would guess the order is something like
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1.DF
>>>>>>>2.GT
>>>>>>>3.Shr. 5.32
>>>>>>>4.Fr.7.0
>>>>>>>5.CT
>>>>>>>6.Others
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And, which of them are due for a patch (Or imminent upgrade) which will make
>>>>>>>their results better?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And does anyone know what is due out new in the next 6 weeks (because then I
>>>>>>>will be passing through the Chess shop in London where I normally buy my
>>>>>>>programs)?
>>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would say:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1.Fritz 7 (no mmx)
>>>>>>2.CT
>>>>>>3.GT
>>>>>>4.DF/DJ7/Shredder 5.32
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Very close in the top though, depends on Time, hardware and operators :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>Jonas
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry, I forgot Junior.
>>>>>I'm thinking mainly of long time controls.
>>>>>And do you mean CT14? Or higher?
>>>>>ssdf and others put GT2 significantly higher than CT14.
>>>>>I realize of course that you have done extensive testing, though that looks to
>>>>>me like the equivalent of about 15 mins. per game (on average) if it were on an
>>>>>AMD 1.4 Ghz.(I mean, the same moves might have been played with that).
>>>>>Regards
>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>
>>>>Sorry i meant
>>>>2.GT
>>>>3.CT
>>>>
>>>>You cannot compare hardware like that, Standard TC is Standard TC no matter what
>>>>hardware you use. Although i wouldn't be surprised if some engines would do
>>>>better on faster hardware and others worse. 40/120+40/60+30 on a Celeron 500 Mhz
>>>>is not equivalent to 15 min per game on an AMD 1.4 Ghz.
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Jonas
>>>
>>>Sorry, I thought it was 40/40 etc.
>>>And, what is "standard TC?" It looks like something interesting! What? that the
>>>speed is the same on any hardware? How would you get that?
>>>regards,
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>The 40/40+40/40+40 games i played with Fritz 7 was done on a 900 Mhz T-bird.
>>Standard TC= 40/120+20/60+30.(is the TC i use for my other live games where is
>>use a Celeron 500 Mhz)
>>What do you mean with "that the speed is the same on any hardware?)and how do
>>you come to the conclusion, that i said that in my previous post? :)
>>
>>Regards
>>Jonas
>Pure imagination!
>So I STILL don't know what standard TC means
>Oh! Time control???
>S.Taylor

TC= Time Contrtol

Regards
Jonas



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