Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:01:33 11/03/01
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On November 03, 2001 at 20:28:50, K. Burcham wrote:
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>crafty played into this losing position in dutch open. i ran this for an hour
>with gambit tiger 2.0. gt 2.0 took 34 minutes to see 17.b4 on 1 gig. at depth
>17 with eval of +1.42.
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> [D] r4rk1/pp1b2pp/4p3/2np4/3R1P2/2N3P1/PPP3BP/2K4R w - -
>
>slate---if you read this will you please test this position with crafty.
>also slate do you have crafty log for this game, is it ok with robert that you
>e-mail me the logs for this game? i would like to analyze this further with logs
>so as to see time per move and maybe depth.
Not a problem for me. I consider everything done at the event to be
public info...
>
>rex---if you read this will you please test with gambit tiger to make sure i was
>right about gambit tiger having problem seeing 17.b4.
>
>miguel ballicora---if you read this, have you seen this position before,
>following the C14: classical, steinitz variation. it seems the variation with
>12...Qc5 13. Be2 a6 14. h4 b5 15. h5 etc. would have prevented this problem
>with the 17.b4. with this variation score seems ok coming out of book.
>
>
>here is shredder5 eval for 17.b4
>shredder5 sees 17.b4 and stays with b4 for eval of +2.00
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> 9.01 0:00 +0.44 1.b4 Na4 2.Nxa4 Bxa4 3.c4 Rac8 4.Bh3 Kf7 5.Re1 Bd7 6.Red1
>(278.123) 356.5
> 10.01 0:02 +0.67 1.b4 Na4 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Bxd5+ Kh8 4.Bxb7 Rad8 5.Rhd1 Nb6
>(1.051.106) 355.1
> 11.01 0:04 +0.71 1.b4 Na4 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Bxd5+ Kh8 4.Bxb7 Rad8 5.Rhd1 Rf7
>6.Bc6 Nb6 7.c4 (1.805.280) 362.5
> 12.01 0:10 +0.96++ 1.b4 Na4 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Bxd5+ Kh8 4.Bxb7 Rad8 5.Rhd1 Rf7
>6.R4d3 a5 7.a3 (3.734.196) 361.4
> 12.01 0:12 +1.00 1.b4 Na4 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Bxd5+ Kh8 4.Bxb7 Rad8 5.Rhd1 Rf7
>6.R4d3 g5 7.fxg5 Rf2 (4.520.354) 366.4
> 13.01 0:24 +0.91 1.b4 Na4 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Bxd5+ Kh8 4.Bxb7 Rad8 5.Rhd1 Rf7
>6.c4 Nc3 7.R1d2 Kg8 8.Rc2 Rb8 9.Rxc3 Rxb7 (8.789.474) 360.7
> 14.01 0:59 +1.16++ 1.b4 Na4 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Bxd5+ Kh8 4.Bxb7 Rad8 5.Rhd1 Rf7
>6.Bc6 Nb6 7.c4 Ra8 8.Bxd7 Kg8 9.Kb2 (21.174.473) 355.4
> 14.01 2:15 +1.66++ 1.b4 Na4 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Bxd5+ Kh8 4.Bxb7 Rad8 5.Rhd1 Rf7
>6.Bc6 Nb6 7.c4 Kg8 8.c5 Rff8 9.Rxd7 (46.762.191) 344.4
> 14.01 4:31 +1.94 1.b4 Na6 2.Nxd5 Rad8 3.Ne3 Bc6 4.Rxd8 Rxd8 5.Bxc6 bxc6 6.a3
>g6 7.Re1 (91.404.205) 337.2
> 15.01 7:32 +1.95 1.b4 Na6 2.Nxd5 Rad8 3.Nc3 Bc6 4.Rxd8 Rxd8 5.Bxc6 bxc6 6.a3
>c5 7.b5 Nc7 8.Re1 (152.109.203) 336.1
> 16.01 19:49 +2.01 1.b4 Na4 2.Nxd5 Rae8 3.Nc7 Re7 4.Bxb7 Rb8 5.Bf3 Rc8 6.Na6
>Nc3 7.a3 e5 8.fxe5 Bf5 (397.196.773) 333.7
>best move: b2-b4 time: 33:34.715 min n/s: 331.577 nodes: 668.032.275
>
>
>it seems 16...a5 is better move. this move leads to the position below and
>prevents the pawn advancing to b4. probably not a winning line, but at least not
>a losing line 16...a5 17.Re1 Bd7 etc.
>shredder5 eval for this new position after 17...Bd7, below.
>gambit tiger 2.0 eval at depth 18 is .84 for this new position.
>
> [D] r4rk1/1p1b2pp/4p3/p1np4/3R1P2/2N3P1/PPP3BP/2K1R3 w - -
>
>
> 8.01 0:01 +0.71 1.Re5 Rad8 2.f5 Rxf5 3.Rxf5 exf5 4.Bxd5+ Be6 5.Kd2 Bxd5
>6.Nxd5 (368.061) 336.7
> 9.01 0:01 +0.54 1.Re5 Rad8 2.f5 Rxf5 3.Rxf5 exf5 4.Bxd5+ Kf8 5.Kd2 g5
>(589.932) 344.3
> 9.08 0:02 +0.55++ 1.Bh3 Kh8 2.f5 exf5 3.Nxd5 Rac8 4.Re7 (1.016.404) 347.7
> 9.08 0:03 +0.61 1.Bh3 Rad8 2.f5 exf5 3.Rxd5 b6 4.Re7 Kh8 5.Rde5 (1.228.994)
>350.8
> 10.01 0:08 +0.60 1.Bh3 g6 2.a3 Rac8 3.Bg4 Kg7 4.h4 b6 5.h5 h6 6.hxg6
>(2.854.740) 344.6
> 11.01 0:15 +0.55 1.Bh3 g6 2.a3 Rac8 3.Bg4 h6 4.h4 Kh7 5.h5 Rf6 6.Kb1
>(5.215.666) 342.3
> 11.02 0:18 +0.56++ 1.Re5 Rad8 2.f5 Rxf5 3.Rxf5 exf5 4.Rxd5 Rc8 5.Rd6 b5
>6.Bf1 b4 (6.493.148) 341.8
> 11.02 0:24 +0.58 1.Re5 Rae8 2.f5 Rxf5 3.Rxf5 exf5 4.Rxd5 Rc8 5.Rd6 Bc6
>6.Bxc6 (8.509.121) 341.0
> 12.01 0:53 +0.66 1.Re5 Rad8 2.f5 Rxf5 3.Rxf5 exf5 4.Rxd5 Rc8 5.a3 Rc7 6.Kd2
>g5 7.h4 h6 8.hxg5 hxg5 (18.456.649) 342.0
> 13.01 2:29 +0.82 1.Re5 Rad8 2.f5 Rxf5 3.Rxf5 exf5 4.Nxd5 Re8 5.Rc4 Ne4 6.Rc7
>Be6 7.Nb6 Rb8 8.a3 g5 (50.808.517) 339.6
> 14.01 7:05 +0.76 1.Re5 Rab8 2.Nxd5 exd5 3.Bxd5+ Kh8 4.Bf3 b6 5.Rxc5 bxc5
>6.Rxd7 g5 7.Be4 h6 (143.653.498) 337.2
> 15.01 17:31 +0.81 1.Re5 Rab8 2.a3 Rbc8 3.Kd2 b5 4.f5 Rxf5 5.Rxf5 exf5 6.Bxd5+
>Kf8 7.b4 axb4 (348.781.831) 331.8
> 16.01 43:32 +0.96 1.Re5 Rab8 2.a3 g6 3.Nxd5 exd5 4.Bxd5+ Kh8 5.Bf3 Rbc8
>6.Rxc5 (864.977.123) 331.1
>best move: Re1-e5 time: 58:45.508 min n/s: 330.586 nodes: 1165.482.536
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>[Event "21st Open Dutch CC Ch."]
>[Site "Leiden NED"]
>[Date "2001.10.27"]
>[Round "02"]
>[White "Kallisto II-X"]
>[Black "Crafty 18.13"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>
>1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.e5 Nfd7 6.Bxe7 Qxe7 7.f4 O-O 8.Nf3 c5
>9.Qd2 Nc6 10.O-O-O cxd4 11.Nxd4 Nxd4 12.Qxd4 f6 13.exf6 Qxf6 14.g3 Qxd4
>15.Rxd4 Nc5 16.Bg2 {DIAGRAM} Bd7 17.b4 Na4 18.Nxd5 exd5 19.Bxd5+ Kh8 20.Bxb7
>Rad8
>21.Rhd1 Nc3 22.R1d2 Rf7 23.Bc6 Nxa2+ 24.Kb2 Rb8 25.Bd5 Nxb4
>26.Bxf7 Nc6+ 27.Kc3 Nxd4 28.Kxd4 Rf8 29.Bd5 a5 30.c4 a4 31.Rd3 g6
>32.Rc3 Rd8 33.Ke5 Re8+ 34.Kd6 Bf5 35.c5 Rd8+ 36.Ke5 Kg7 37.c6 Re8+
>38.Kd6 Rd8+ 39.Kc5 Ra8 40.Ra3 {DIAGRAM} Ra5+ 41.Kd6 Ra6 42.Bc4 Ra8 43.Be6 Be4
>44.Bd7 Ra6 45.Kc5 Bg2 46.c7 Bb7 47.Rxa4 Rxa4 48.Bxa4 Bc8 49.Kd6 Kf6
>50.h4 Ba6 51.Bd7 Kf7 52.g4 Kf8 53.g5 Bb7 1-0
>
>kburcham
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