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Subject: Re: Leiden depressions

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 02:57:56 11/05/01

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On November 05, 2001 at 05:33:51, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:

I operated DIEP for years in textmode when diep was winboard.

Note that Tao was going to the wrong corner with king in the end.

there were a bunch of passers on the board. Diep had dangerous h2
passer. Tao 2 easily stopped passers. by giving away passers tao could
win piece but get a draw. However tao had +0.80 or whatever, so it wanted
to win. So it would have lost. I've seen it many times. King was already
going to the wrong corner to prevent repetition.

I'm sure that if he used textmode, because i couldn't adjust time in xboard,
like i have done so many years, he would have lost more
operator time, like i lost on average 20 minutes to connection + operator
time when playing remote. In that case he would have been at 'bullet'
level sooner with Tao and i would have won the game easily.

Now people go complain about sportmanship. Am i allowed to take
back bad moves of DIEP next tournament, or use up 89 minutes for the
first 39 moves so that it plays better there and then claim a draw
with 1 minute left based on 'sportmanship' rules?

My tip to you guys is: drop winboard

if not then improve winboard. Note that against Quark i lost more time
than he lost against me in that game he mentionned. I walk away nearly
every move. I lose on average 30 seconds a move in the first 30 moves
of the game, *only* because i walk away.

I adjust time however. Last part of Tao game i operated myself without
walking away much. Of course Bas lost loads of time. I even warned him
around move 40 that time would be a crucial factor in this game if he
operated on so slowly - he didn't listen. Only when he had left 15
minutes on clock he realized he lost time.

If Bas was in doubt what i had moved i even announced my move, up to the last
moment. Perhaps learn chess a bit?

I forfeited on time against Junior in world champs 2000. Diep was a pawn
up in the rook endgame. Junior was going with king into wrong corner
at that moment. Even though most likely it would have become a draw,
i forfeited because i didn't make time control on 20 seconds. DIEP had
a fail low from +1.5 to +1.0 and used up, completely to my amazement,
all its spare time. Normally it would have thought only 90 seconds there
or so and i would have had left 3 minutes til time control.

Time is a factor which has been deciding dutch open tournament in the past
a lot, so it has in world champs. The titles The King got itself were
all based upon games won because of time.

Best regards,
Vincent

>On November 05, 2001 at 01:30:40, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>
>>I have never seen a commercial programmer behave in the way you describe. Can
>>you mention one?
>>
>>It's not about being commercial anyway, it's about being a gentleman.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>Well, I believe a good operator should be willing to do ANYTHING (within the
>rules of course) to increase the scoring expectance of the program. I do not
>think it has to do with being gentleman or not.
>José.



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