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Subject: Re: Don't pay DeKoening any more currency until he improves the King engine!

Author: John Merlino

Date: 08:54:27 11/05/01

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On November 05, 2001 at 09:08:20, Albert Silver wrote:

>On November 04, 2001 at 15:21:15, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On November 04, 2001 at 13:37:01, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>
>>>Chessmaster is the best selling program in the world, is it too much to ask for
>>>DeKoening to actually improve the engine at least a little in the next version?
>>> I feel as if the company that is paying him is being cheated.  No slaps against
>>>anyone i could be wrong, that's just my opinion.  I make the statement because i
>>>would like that engine to actually be improved it has a very nice style of play.
>>
>>Uh, Johan already wasn't very happy, and I guess your post won't
>>be very motivating either :(
>>
>>I talked with him about this during the game. It seems that he does
>>try a lot of new things, but usually ends up throwing them out again
>>because they prove to be worse than what he does now. I guess it may
>>be very hard to keep the King's nice style and make it stronger.
>>But he is working and the engine does improve.
>
>Another question is in the settings used. Presumably the settings in the
>Chessmaster series are the optimal ones as established by the author. Yet after
>the hullabaloo on the new CM8000 engine being described as weaker, a number of
>power-users began tinkering with the settings, and a few significantly improved
>ones were found. At least that is what I understood from Merlino's posts on the
>testing. If so, the outlook might no be quite so dire.
>
>                                      Albert

The "improved" settings that most users here are likely to find would almost
certainly NOT be improved for our typical user, who has a PII or a low-end PIII
and only plays 10-minute games at most. Almost all users here are interested in
tournament time controls, which is fine. To be specific, the default personality
would almost certainly (and possibly quite easily) defeat a personality with
Selective Search=12 on our typical user's machine in fast time controls. I
believe it was Vincent Diepeveen who said something like "playing a tournament
at SS=12 amounts to suicide."

This is why the default personality is what it is in CM8000, and will likely
remain as it is for the next version as well.

jm



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