Author: Uri Blass
Date: 09:19:42 11/05/01
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On November 05, 2001 at 10:14:10, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >On November 05, 2001 at 09:48:45, Frank Schubert wrote: > >>On November 05, 2001 at 03:40:36, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>the next big event and Fritz cann't win. >>>In the most magazines where I can read information about Fritz-Kramnik I must >>>read Fritz is the best program in the World. But our Fritz can not win the big >>>tourneys. >>> >>>A pity: >>>We have programs (I am to 70% sure) witch have a better chance against Kramnik >>>with longer time controls. >>> >>>Chess Tiger ... >>>Shredder ... >>>Gandalf ... >>> >>>and now the World must see Fritz (not the 4x computer chess world champion >>>Shredder), a program which cann't win the most of big computer chess events. >>> >>>GM Keene say Fritz is the best program in the World. >>>Is GM Keene a grandmaster or have Keene tomatos on his eyes. >>> >>>What a pity ... >>> >>>But all this is not very important, the match Kramnik - Fritz is also boring if >>>I look in my computer chess kalendar with the results of the last years. >>> >>>Now Chess Tiger won the Dutch-ch 2001 and I will say ... Christiophe we all know >>>how strong is your program and I will say ... >>> >>>Congratulations >>> >>>Best >>>Frank >>> >>> >>>I wait of tourneys where Fritz can win. >>>So it is better for me to understand a grandmaster with the name "Keene". >> >> >>The 'Frank Quisinsky' I know from the past was an independent and fair >>computerchess lover which gave us a lot of useful information. >>The 'Frank Quisinsky' today seems to be an ideologue with paranoia >>fighting his own private war against the bad bad boys from Hamburg. >>That's a REAL PITY. >>Turn back to facts not fiction. >>If the Kramnik/Fritz match is so boring for you I don't understand your >>agitation. It's a further man vs. machine event, the human world champion >>against the established leader of SSDF and other rating lists, no less, >>no more. So what is your problem, Frank ? >> >>Frank > > >SSDF :-)) >Do you have not better points ... bad very bad for you. >Try to make yourself a little bit bevor you speak here. I try this, create a >webpage plays tourneys ... You are a person which read from others and must give >comments without any own work. > >Congratulations for this excellent work ! > >A private organisation for a reason to play Fritz, a million dollar object :-) > >Good joke! > >World Championchips are not important but the SSDF list where the complete games >not available, the configuration not available, information about tablebases not >available and and and ... > >Look on my tourneys, all games are available, all configurations all what is >important and the SSDF with x people can not give this information. > >The SSDF is interesting but only one of thousends interesting points, no less no >more. > >What is my problem? >False marketing is my problem, this is bad for computer chess. > >So I read in newspaper that with Fritz 7 I can play on chess server ... a >sensation ? Oh yes a sensation, FICS is more as 5 years old and i think better. > >I read that Fritz is the best chess program :-) >Oh yes, Fritz is the best chess program ... sorry I read this in the SSDF and >must know this. > >Bad marketing is also bad for all people which have interest to bring computer >chess to more people in the World. > >Look in FRITZ forum (CSS forum) and you know what I mean. >People forget computer chess and now 2 weeks only theme number 1 is Fritz. A >buggy software and people are happy with this buggy software. The world will >have a computer chess programs with a lot of mistakes :-)) > >What is with all people which buy Fritz 7 and have not an internet account. Must >live with all this mistakes. And this is good for computer chess to power a bad >GUI with so many mistakes. > >Sorry, I have an other opinion and it is absolut clear for me that only one >program can play against Kramnik. > >4x World Champion Shredder by Stefan Meyer Kahlen and not >0x World Champion Fritz ... 1)Fritz is not 0xworld champion. Fritz3 was the world champion in 1995 2)The rules say that kramnik play with the program that sponsors pay him more money to play against. If you want Kramnik to play Shredder you need to give him money for playing against Shredder. I only think that a match against Kramnik is wasting too much money and if the target is to see Shredder losing then it is possible to pay less money for another player to beat Shredder under the same conditions that Kramnik is going to get. I assume that the target is to see Shredder losing because I see no other point in a match against kramnik(it seems clear that kramnik is going to win against a known program and the name of the program is not important). The only chance against kramnik today is to put against him something that he never saw and cannot learn it's weakness. I believe that chess programs are not good enough to beat kramnik under better conditions and even against an unknown program kramnik is the favourite to win. Uri
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