Author: Uri Blass
Date: 09:54:09 11/05/01
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On November 05, 2001 at 11:33:02, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >On November 05, 2001 at 05:12:09, Jouni Uski wrote: > >>On November 05, 2001 at 03:40:36, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>the next big event and Fritz cann't win. >>>In the most magazines where I can read information about Fritz-Kramnik I must >>>read Fritz is the best program in the World. But our Fritz can not win the big >>>tourneys. >>> >>>A pity: >>>We have programs (I am to 70% sure) witch have a better chance against Kramnik >>>with longer time controls. >>> >>>Chess Tiger ... >>>Shredder ... >>>Gandalf ... >>> >>>and now the World must see Fritz (not the 4x computer chess world champion >>>Shredder), a program which cann't win the most of big computer chess events. >>> >>>GM Keene say Fritz is the best program in the World. >>>Is GM Keene a grandmaster or have Keene tomatos on his eyes. >>> >>>What a pity ... >>> >>>But all this is not very important, the match Kramnik - Fritz is also boring if >>>I look in my computer chess kalendar with the results of the last years. >>> >>>Now Chess Tiger won the Dutch-ch 2001 and I will say ... Christiophe we all know >>>how strong is your program and I will say ... >>> >>>Congratulations >>> >>>Best >>>Frank >>> >>> >>>I wait of tourneys where Fritz can win. >> >>Hi Frank, In your own homepage is listed 3 tournament, which Fritz/Quest won... >>But yes they are surprisingly rare even if Fritz has normally better hardware >>than the rest. May be it's optimised for human play? >> >>Jouni > >Hi Jouni, > >it is possible that Fritz 6 and now Fritz 7 is optimised for human play. > >I believe: > >Tactial strength >Fritz 3.000 >Shredder 2.900 > >Positional strength >Fritz 2.300 >Shredder 2.400 > >And 100 ELO more positional strength is better against human because in tactial >games we have maybe 20 programs which are better then Kramnik. But Kramnik is >400 ELO better in positional strength. > >I think the best programs have not more as 2.400 ELO in correspondence chess. >Maybe not more then 2.350 ELO ... I don't know. I have a different opinion and I believe that top programs on good hardware are at least 2500 in correspondence chess. Fritz6 and Nimzo7.32 beated senior master Steve Ham 2.5-1.5 and Fritz missed a win in the endgame of one of these games. My experience in the championship of Israel tells me that I get 6.5 out of 8 against players with average ICCF rating that is almost 2450 and most of my moves are computer moves. I admit that I used my brain mainly to choose which program to believe when different programs suggested different moves but I guess that computer with no help with faster hardware could get at least 4.5 out of 8 that means rating that is close to 2500. Here are my results: Abir Har aven(2587)-Uri Blass 0-1 Dov Rozenberg(2516)-Uri Blass 0-1(this game was not finished but I am sure about the result and yace says more than +12 pawns for me) Uri Blass-Yoav Dothan(2501) 0.5-0.5(he agreed to a draw today) Luba kristol(2488)-Uri Blass 0-1 Uri Blass Pinhas Azar(2466) 0.5-0.5 David vaichel(2372)-Uri Blass(all my moves in that game were identical to Deep Fritz) 0-1 Uri Blass-Moshe Glazman(2322) 0.5-0.5 Uri Blass-Micheal Gavish(2295) 1-0 Uri
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