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Subject: Re: Leiden depressions

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:44:02 11/05/01

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On November 05, 2001 at 12:44:55, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:

>On November 05, 2001 at 12:20:55, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On November 05, 2001 at 11:20:59, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:
>>
>>>I never entered an "On the board" computer chess competition so there must be
>>>something that I am missing. What's the big problem with using winboard?
>>
>>You cannot adjust WinBoard's clock.
>
>ok, but... is that a real problem? as long as you can adjust the internal clock.

The problem is that xboard/winboard tells you the clock times after each
move.  If you adjust your internal clock, xboard will re-adjust it back.  :)
You _could_ have a tournament mode where you ignore the xboard time/otim
commands, and let the operator set the time when needed.

>
>>>Why
>>>can't the engine ask you once in a while how much time has been wasted by the
>>>operator or whatever? What's the big deal? Is it not allowed?
>>
>>That's perfectly possible and that is what I was doing.
>
>Ok, if that is possible, I do not understand all the bitching against Winboard
>that Vincent was doing. Winboard has everything needed then to nicely operate
>an engine in a tournament. Am I missing something else?

The time issue is a bit harder than expected because if you don't (can't)
adjust winboard's clocks, then winboard _will_ adjust yours back to the wrong
values.

>
>>
>>>Why do the people need to restart an engine plus the interface???
>>
>>Because if your engine can't/doesn't ask you for the
>>time it has wasted, the only way to correct WinBoards clock
>>is restarting WinBoard.
>
>but you do not need to correct winboard clock if the engine knows how much
>time has been wasted. I do not think a restart should be allowed for this
>reason. A restart could be a big advantage in some situations. A programmer
>should either use the interface that suits their program accordingly or in this
>case use some of the properties of the interface (winboard).


I agree.  ICCA events used to not allow restarts unless the machine or program
obviously crashed.  That allows for a form of human intervention that is best
left out.

>
>Regards,
>Miguel
>
>
>
>>
>>--
>>GCP



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