Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 12:20:02 11/05/01
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On November 05, 2001 at 14:21:36, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>Hi Christophe,
>
>>:) :) :)
>>Anyway, the general audience will believe what the press says.
>>And the press definitely HAS tomatoes in its eyes.
>
>Yes and only the fans from commercial GUI x or y or program x or y have an other
>opinion. I hope that people are not blind and see all points to this theme.
>
>>Fritz is strong, and it does not need to win tournaments. Tournaments are random
>>events.
>>
>>The 3 or 4 top programs (as tested by the SSDF) are so close in strength that it
>>is impossible to say which one is the best anyway.
>
>Yes this is absolute right.
>Maybe for longer time controls are Tiger, Shredder, Gandalf and Junior (Junior
>with ?, I am not sure) better then Fritz. But the hardware is too slow. I
>believe with the actual hardware and 40 moves in 120 minutes are Tiger,
>Shredder, Junior and Fritz are playing on the same level. Maybe Gandalf in
>version 5, at the moment is Gandalf with Hiarcs and Nimzo on the same level. Not
>for longer time controls, here I know that Gandalf is clearly stronger.
You know what I think of such claims.
>>But that was last year's generation. We will see what happens with the new
>>generation (Junior 7, Fritz 7 and Tiger 15).
>
>Yes, we will see!
>
>Do you think that you can make your program 30-50 ELO better without faster
>hardware. I think after 2.600 ELO is this very very hard and maybe not possible.
>I mean 50 ELO more for an engine with 2.600 ELO, I cann't know this, also I
>cann't know this that Gandalf is 50 ELO stronger with the aggressive playing
>style. I think in different endgames Tiger have problems, so it is possible if
>you make here changes that Tiger is 30 or more ELO better. Your program is very
>interesting, the evaluation is critical positions is very good. If Tiger say -1
>or +1 then it is in 90% the right evaluation. Other top programs have here
>problems so for me the evaluation from Tiger is very good.
Tiger is a neverending work in progress. There are many things to improve, so I
have good hope that the margin for improvement is big.
Christophe
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