Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 17:23:21 11/05/01
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On November 05, 2001 at 18:35:25, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: You need to modify winboard source code for your plan Miguel. >On November 05, 2001 at 14:44:02, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On November 05, 2001 at 12:44:55, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: >> >>>On November 05, 2001 at 12:20:55, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>> >>>>On November 05, 2001 at 11:20:59, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: >>>> >>>>>I never entered an "On the board" computer chess competition so there must be >>>>>something that I am missing. What's the big problem with using winboard? >>>> >>>>You cannot adjust WinBoard's clock. >>> >>>ok, but... is that a real problem? as long as you can adjust the internal clock. >> >>The problem is that xboard/winboard tells you the clock times after each >>move. If you adjust your internal clock, xboard will re-adjust it back. :) >>You _could_ have a tournament mode where you ignore the xboard time/otim >>commands, and let the operator set the time when needed. > >You can ask "How much time have been wasted?" and the operator enter: 10 minutes >So, this variable is stored by the engine. When you see "time" coming from >winboard you know that this is the total time, but 10 minutes were wasted. >So you just make the substraction. In this way, I do not even need an internal >clock. > >Of course you can ask a friendlier question like "How much time is left?" >and the engine calculate the time wasted. >I think that if the engine ask every 10 moves or so there should be no problem. > >Regards, >Miguel > > >> >>> >>>>>Why >>>>>can't the engine ask you once in a while how much time has been wasted by the >>>>>operator or whatever? What's the big deal? Is it not allowed? >>>> >>>>That's perfectly possible and that is what I was doing. >>> >>>Ok, if that is possible, I do not understand all the bitching against Winboard >>>that Vincent was doing. Winboard has everything needed then to nicely operate >>>an engine in a tournament. Am I missing something else? >> >>The time issue is a bit harder than expected because if you don't (can't) >>adjust winboard's clocks, then winboard _will_ adjust yours back to the wrong >>values. >> >>> >>>> >>>>>Why do the people need to restart an engine plus the interface??? >>>> >>>>Because if your engine can't/doesn't ask you for the >>>>time it has wasted, the only way to correct WinBoards clock >>>>is restarting WinBoard. >>> >>>but you do not need to correct winboard clock if the engine knows how much >>>time has been wasted. I do not think a restart should be allowed for this >>>reason. A restart could be a big advantage in some situations. A programmer >>>should either use the interface that suits their program accordingly or in this >>>case use some of the properties of the interface (winboard). >> >> >>I agree. ICCA events used to not allow restarts unless the machine or program >>obviously crashed. That allows for a form of human intervention that is best >>left out. >> >>> >>>Regards, >>>Miguel >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>GCP
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