Author: Tony Werten
Date: 00:38:17 11/06/01
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On November 05, 2001 at 21:00:30, Thomas Mayer wrote: >Hi Vincent, > >>First of all >> a) it was not a dead draw > >yes, I have looked over the game - it was not dead draw, but why not let your >engine win it without killing him because of time troubles ? Were you frightened >that Diep will show again its weakness in endgames ? > >> b) i had warned him > >You haven't according to Bas... And I believe Bas more. He didn't even know that >he can't adjust the clock during game in winboard. Why not let him restart >winboard ? If that is the only way to adjust the clock ? There is NOWHERE a >description HOW the clock must be adjusted - if it is needed to do by restart so >let him do - what can you loose ? > >> c) he was stubborn > >There was only one stubborn person around. Everybody is wrong here except you ? >Have you ever thought about the fact why ALWAYS you are in center of such >problems during tourneys ? > >> d) when it was too late he started realizing and begged like a baby > >There is only one baby... > >> e) after the game Bas acted very sportmanship by giving a hand > >Yes, he is sportsman.. > >> f) you guys are completely idiotic to assume things without being >> there. > >I have heared enough from Tony, Gian-Carlo and Bas... Nobody support your >version of the story... Just accept the simple fact that YOU did not act as a >sportsman. Sorry, but I think you misunderstood me. The "brainstorming" at the bar I did with Bas, was about the fact that he wasn't allowed to restart winboard ( wich by the way was a decision by the referee, not by Vincent ) but you are allowed "bugtime". If there is a bug you are allowed to solve the problem and restart the program and we talked about ways to change "changing timecontrol" into "bugtime". To make it clear, Bas and I were joking. About Vincent playing on: You can say: Vincent should have seen it was a draw and therefor should have offered it. Also possible: By using more time, Tao reached a draw position wich he might not have had if he had used less time. It should not be rewarded with a draw for doing that. The position was not clearly drawn so playing on is at least acceptable. Reason for me feeling this way is a game I played at last years championship. I had a won position, with 6 min on the clock and my engine changed to blitz mode. My opponent had 15 minutes but (because of a bug) he allocated 2 to 3 minutes a move. 6 moves later it was a drawnposition (KBpKR) and my opponents flag fell. I claimed the win. Tony > >> g) at tournament levels i nearly always lost more operator time >> than my opponents, with exception of the last so many moves when >> in time trouble. That's what happened here too. > >That is your problem if you can't sit at your place... Nobody knows how often >YOU change your clock, most games you enter so much commands in your keyboard. > >> h) If one time you lose >> 10 minutes with a score of -3.xx or whatever, me being a piece up >> or whatever, why still remember it, i would already have resigned >> the game in disgust. > >There was no -3.xx score at that point in our game... just Quark plays unsound - >and you also did not act as a sportsman, I remember that I was very often during >that game at the table and that I was sitting around 5 minutes at the board >awaiting your move unless I see that my clock is running... No comment from you, >nothing... and for a long time you was also in fear that Diep would not find the >way - I remember well. > >Greets, Thomas
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