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Subject: Re: I'll be damned if...

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 07:40:06 11/06/01

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On November 06, 2001 at 09:54:55, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 06, 2001 at 08:39:49, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>
>>On November 06, 2001 at 07:20:26, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On November 06, 2001 at 06:21:49, Rory Nolan wrote:
>>>
>>>>What settings etc did you use and how long did it take fritzy to find Rb4!. None
>>>>of the progs I have can find it (Junior 7, Deep fritz, Shredder 5 etc..) mind
>>>>you I only gave them approx 10 mins each (Amd 950 96 mb for hash)
>>>>thanks
>>>>Rory
>>>
>>>Default settings, 288M hash, Athlon 1000
>>>
>>>I find it very strange Fritz 'finds' this move, as there
>>>has been serious debate if the solution is correct.
>>>
>>>--
>>>GCP
>>
>>Serious debate? Well the first serious debate of this position was in Niendorf
>>1927 between Nimzowitsch and Kmoch on the board. Later this position was
>>discussed by german GM Kurt Richter in his book "Der Schachpraktiker", 1959 and
>>may be others. So the position *is* correct.


>
>
>1927,1959
>There were no chess programs at that time so the analysis was not serious
>analysis.


 Wow... by the above sentence you are labeling the analysis of many GM:s
 and Worldchampions as "not serious"... Disrespect is one word that comes
 to mind. You seem to have a very computerized viewpoint, when it comes
 to chess and quality of chess. Hmm...I prefer to look at it the other way
 around - with analysis from computers as an add on to human ones...

 Sune
>
>I trust more analysis from today and not analysis that is more than 40 years
>old.
>
>I remember that there was a discussion about the position in the last years and
>it seems that white can get a draw by correct defence.
>
>I do not know what you mean by "the position *is* correct"
>If you mean that the move of Fritz gives the best practical chances then you are
>correct but if you mean that the move is winning then you are probably wrong(I
>am not sure because I did not waste time to check the analysis)
>
>Uri



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