Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 20:27:06 11/06/01
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On November 06, 2001 at 14:26:18, Steven Schwartz wrote:
>On November 06, 2001 at 14:13:25, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On November 06, 2001 at 13:59:41, O. Veli wrote:
>>
>>>Hello to all,
>>>
>>> I have seen the following info about Star Sapphire:
>>>
>>>Advanced SH7034 RISC processor (1M ROM and 256K RAM) and High Speed 20MHz energy
>>>saving CMOS TECHNOLOGY including Hash Tables.
>>>
>>> How comparable is the RISC processor with DragonBall used in Palms? Since we
>>>have already 33MHz Palms, and strong programs such as ChessTiger and ChessGenius
>>>for Palm, does Star Sapphire have a chance to claim to be world's strongest
>>>portable unit? Can RISC processor and/or 1M ROM add to its strength for the
>>>deficiency in speed? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>I do not know how the SH7034 compares to the DragonBall.
>>
>>One thing I know is that you can FORGET ABOUT COMPARING THE MHz. It's
>>meaningless.
>>
>>The amount of ROM has no meaning either. I could use several Mb for Chess Tiger
>>for Palm if I wanted to, either for the program (code), the opening book, or the
>>hash tables. On some Palms I could use 16Mb.
>>
>>I do not know how the Star Sapphire will compare to Chess Tiger for Palm, but
>>I'm already almost certain that it will be washed away by PocketPC chess
>>programs like ChessGenius running on the iPaq.
>>
>>So its claim to be the world's strongest portable unit is bullshit.
>>
>>I have also received an ad today from ICD claiming its elo is between 2400-2550
>>elo. That must be expressed in BS elo (Baby School).
>> Christophe
>
>
>You may very well be right about the strength issue vs. the various
>palm-top computers. We won't have any firm answers for several months.
>It actually was not our intent to compare the Star Sapphire with those
>devices but rather chess computers. As I mentioned earlier, maybe using
>the word "dedicated" would have been a better choice.
>
>As far as the estimated rating... we based the 2400 to 2550 on Novag's
>estimate of 2550 and our belief that the computer was likely to be 50
>or more stronger than the 2350 we put on the Sapphire II (the Star
>Sapphire's predecessor).
>Steve (ICD/Your Move Chess & Games)
The Sapphire II is rated 2012 by the SSDF. Maybe 2100 because the SSDF
subtracted 100 points to all the computers in the list, and while it was
justified for the top, it was less justified for the bottom of the list.
IIRC the Sapphire II already had the same processor as the Star Sapphire.
I have a hard time believing that the program would have improved so much that
it would now be 50, 100 or 150 elo points stronger.
So I think your figures are overevaluated, even in USCF elo.
Christophe
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