Author: Uri Blass
Date: 05:59:35 11/07/01
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On November 07, 2001 at 08:45:50, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On November 06, 2001 at 16:15:07, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On November 06, 2001 at 11:08:36, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On November 06, 2001 at 07:12:18, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>[D]r4r1k/1bqnbpp1/p2ppn1p/1p1N4/3NP3/P6Q/1PP1BPPP/2BRR1K1 b - - 0 1 >>> >>>score from side to move: black in this case. preventing exd5 is hard for diep. >>> >>> Proces 1 starting initialisation! >>> Proces 1 starting SearchSMP! >>>Took 0.07 seconds to start all 1 other processes >>>Process 1: engineflags=0 msk=1 >>>process 0: engineflags = 0 denktime=10000000 maxtime=10000000 >>>00:01 0 0 5 (0) 1 3.047 e6xd5 >>>00:01 0 0 298 (0) 2 2.823 e6xd5 Nd4-f5 Nd7-e5 Nf5xe7 Qc7xe7 >>>00:01 0 0 993 (0) 3 2.823 e6xd5 Nd4-f5 Nd7-e5 Nf5xe7 Qc7xe7 >>>00:02 0 0 4192 (0) 4 1.780 e6xd5 Nd4-f5 Nd7-e5 Bc1xh6 >>>00:02 0 0 51089 (6046) 5 1.559 e6xd5 Nd4-f5 Nf6-g8 e4xd5 Nd7-e5 Qh3-g3 Be7-f6 >>>00:03 0 0 56301 (6094) 6 1.559 e6xd5 Nd4-f5 Nf6-g8 e4xd5 Nd7-e5 Qh3-g3 Be7-f6 >>>00:03 0 0 102058 (7986) 7 1.559 e6xd5 Nd4-f5 Nf6-g8 e4xd5 Nd7-e5 Qh3-g3 Be7-f6 >>>00:07 0 0 288681 (19409) 8 0.968 e6xd5 Nd4-f5 Nf6-g8 Qh3-g3 g7-g5 e4xd5 Qc7xc2 N >>>f5xe7 Ng8xe7 Qg3xd6 >>>00:29 0 0 1717234 (627103) 9 1.545 e6xd5 Nd4-f5 Nf6-g8 e4xd5 Be7-f6 Bc1-f4 Bf6xb >>>2 Bf4xd6 Qc7xc2 Bd6xf8 Ra8xf8 >>>01:06 0 0 4190172 (716119) 10 1.491 e6xd5 Nd4-f5 Nf6-g8 e4xd5 Nd7-e5 c2-c3 Be7-f >>>6 Bc1-f4 Rf8-e8 Qh3-e3 >>>06:19 0 0 24299604 (1855064) 11 -0.395 e6xd5 Bc1xh6 g7xh6 Qh3xh6 Nf6-h7 Nd4-f5 R >>>f8-g8 Nf5xe7 Rg8-g7 e4xd5 Qc7xc2 Qh6xd6 Nh7-f6 b2-b4 Qc2-e4 >>>13:02 0 0 49593937 (6538513) 12 -0.395 e6xd5 Bc1xh6 g7xh6 Qh3xh6 Nf6-h7 Nd4-f5 R >>>f8-g8 Nf5xe7 Rg8-g7 e4xd5 Qc7xc2 Qh6xd6 Nh7-f6 b2-b4 Qc2-e4 >>> >>>After exd5 bxh6 gxh6 qxh6 nh7: >>> >>>00:08 0 0 488500 (233674) 10 0.395 Nd4-f5 Rf8-g8 Nf5xe7 Rg8-g7 e4xd5 Qc7xc2 Qh6x >>>d6 Nh7-f6 b2-b4 >>>01:18 0 0 5353202 (1411798) 11 0.438 Nd4-f5 Rf8-g8 Nf5xe7 Qc7xc2 Qh6xd6 Rg8-d8 e >>>4xd5 Qc2xb2 Ne7-c6 Bb7xc6 d5xc6 >>>03:30 0 0 14672155 (1533593) 12 0.498 Nd4-f5 Rf8-g8 Nf5xe7 Qc7xc2 Qh6xd6 Rg8-d8 >>>e4xd5 Qc2xb2 Ne7-c6 Bb7xc6 d5xc6 Nd7-f8 >>> >>>then played also Nf5 Rg8 Nxe7 now black to move so score from black: >>>00:56 0 0 3810025 (20964) 10 -0.563 Qc7xc2 Ne7xg8 Ra8xg8 Qh6xd6 Qc2xe4 Be2-f1 Qe >>>4-g4 h2-h3 Qg4-f5 Re1-e7 Nh7-f8 Qd6-h6 Nf8-h7 >>> >>>After Qxc2: >>>00:01 0 0 139664 (287) 10 0.563 Ne7xg8 Ra8xg8 Qh6xd6 Qc2xe4 Be2-f1 Qe4-g4 h2-h3 >>>Qg4-f5 Re1-e7 Nh7-f8 Qd6-h6 Nf8-h7 >>> >>>Now played Nxg8 Rxg8. white has powerful rooks + pawns versus 2 stupid knights >>>now: >>>00:02 0 0 206052 (4848) 9 0.563 Qh6xd6 Qc2xe4 Be2-f1 Qe4-g4 h2-h3 Qg4-f5 Re1-e7 >>>Nh7-f8 Qd6-h6 Nf8-h7 >>>00:27 0 0 1929101 (110179) 10 0.328 Qh6xd6 Qc2xe4 Be2-f1 Qe4-g4 f2-f3 Qg4-f5 Re1 >>>-e7 Nh7-f8 Qd6-h6 Nf8-h7 >>> >>>Played then Qxd6 Qxe4: >>>00:13 0 0 919572 (355113) 9 1.223 Be2-f1 Qe4-f5 Re1-e7 Nh7-f6 Rd1-d3 Rg8-g6 Rd3- >>>d2 Kh8-g8 Bf1-d3 >>>00:47 0 0 3598439 (576201) 10 1.456 Be2-f1 Qe4-f5 Re1-e7 Nh7-f6 Rd1-d3 Qf5-h5 Re >>>7xd7 Nf6xd7 Qd6xd7 Bb7-a8 >>> >>>Moved back Qxe4: >>>00:02 0 0 149563 (37101) 7 -1.093 Nd7-f6 e4xd5 Nf6-e4 Qd6-e5 f7-f6 Qe5-d4 Qc2xb2 >>> >>>00:07 0 0 525112 (190942) 8 -1.390 Nd7-f6 e4xd5 Nf6-e4 Qd6-e5 f7-f6 Qe5-d4 Qc2xb >>>2 >>>00:27 0 0 1994572 (569151) 9 -1.094 Nd7-f6 e4-e5 Nf6-e4 Qd6-e7 Qc2-c6 g2-g3 Nh7- >>>g5 Be2-g4 Rg8-e8 >>>00:57 0 0 4286455 (751102) 10 -0.984 Nd7-f6 e4-e5 Nf6-e4 Qd6-d7 Qc2-c5 Re1-f1 Nh >>>7-g5 g2-g3 Bb7-c6 Qd7-f5 >>> >>>I moved back many moves now so that only moves left played are: >>>exd5 Bxh6 gh Qh6 Nh7 Nf5 Rg8 Nxe7: >>> >>>Computer starts nullmoving now: >>>00:01 0 0 77132 (7283) 6 -0.844 Rg8-g7 e4xd5 Nd7-f6 Be2-d3 Nf6-g4 Qh6-h3 >>>++ d7-f6 >>>00:01 0 0 92512 (7985) 6 -0.471 Nd7-f6 Ne7xg8 Ra8xg8 c2-c3 Rg8-g6 Qh6-e3 d5xe4 >>>00:01 0 0 122465 (7985) 7 -0.471 Nd7-f6 Ne7xg8 Ra8xg8 c2-c3 Rg8-g6 Qh6-e3 d5xe4 >>> >>>00:02 0 0 196319 (16483) 8 -0.876 Nd7-f6 Ne7xg8 Ra8xg8 c2-c3 Rg8-g6 Qh6-e3 d5xe4 >>> g2-g3 >>>++ g8-g7 >>>00:07 0 0 516145 (67128) 8 -0.779 Rg8-g7 e4xd5 Nd7-f6 Be2-d3 Ra8-b8 >>>++ g8-g5 >>>00:12 0 0 859166 (67361) 8 -0.766 Rg8-g5 e4xd5 Nd7-f6 Be2-d3 Rg5-h5 Qh6-f4 Rh5-e >>>5 Re1xe5 d6xe5 >>>++ c7-c2 >>>00:34 0 0 2391556 (154901) 9 -0.626 Rg8-g5 e4xd5 Nd7-f6 Be2-d3 Qc7-c5 >>>++ g8-g7 >>>00:45 0 0 3196005 (200404) 9 -0.582 Rg8-g7 e4xd5 Nd7-f6 Be2-d3 Qc7-c5 >>>++ d7-f6 >>>00:47 0 0 3399129 (210221) 9 -0.561 Nd7-f6 Ne7xg8 Ra8xg8 c2-c3 Rg8-g6 Qh6-e3 d5x >>>e4 g2-g3 Nf6-g4 >>>00:54 0 0 3960848 (233817) 10 -0.664 Nd7-f6 Ne7xg8 Ra8xg8 c2-c3 Rg8-g6 Qh6-e3 d5 >>>xe4 Qe3-f4 Kh8-g8 Rd1xd6 >>>01:41 0 0 7352032 (473402) 11 -0.480 Nd7-f6 Ne7xg8 Ra8xg8 c2-c3 Rg8-g6 Qh6-f4 Nf >>>6xe4 Be2-d3 Rg6-f6 Qf4-h4 Kh8-g8 >>> >>>No Qxc2 anymore anyway. Man am i happy i do not have black in that position. >>>Black must beg for mercy from white to draw this. >>> >>>After i move Nd7-f6 now, which is pretty desperate move, then: >>>00:19 0 0 1421505 (107762) 11 0.595 Ne7xg8 Ra8xg8 c2-c3 d5xe4 g2-g3 Bb7-d5 h2-h4 >>> Rg8-g6 Qh6-d2 Kh8-g8 Be2-h5 Nf6xh5 Qd2xd5 >>> >>>So score slowly going up again for white. White is playing a royal game here. >>>Black must go back to the chessclub and learn chess, he made some strategic >>>mistakes here if he allows all this! >>> >>>Which side did you play here? >> >>I played white and I did not play Nd5 because I decided it does not give me >>advantage. >> >>I may be wrong but I remember that I played also Deep Fritz against Junior5.9 >>and Deep Fritz could not win with white. >> >>I am going to find that game later. >> >>I remember that the anlaysis was not an analysis of Ndf6 but of another move(I >>believe Rg5 but I am not sure now). >> >>Uri > >Not playing Nd5 could be a simple win indeed. The tactics are tough after Nd5 >though seemingly favouring white, whereas playing other moves might lead to >a way easier win. Just put all pieces on king side and tactics will win >anyway for white. >win I believe that white has no advantage in the original position and that the position is equal. I also believe that after Nd5 black chances are better. Junior5.9 played 2 games with black and I stopped them at point when it was clear to me that Junior is not going to lose the games. Junior played Rg7 some moves after Nd5 and there are other possibilities for black like Rg5 so I was afraid to play Nd5. This is not a tactical test but a positional test and I may be wrong about it and it may be interesting to hear opinions of other people who are better players than me(for example Albert Silver). Uri
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