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Subject: Re: Leiden depressions

Author: Bas Hamstra

Date: 05:59:42 11/08/01

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On November 07, 2001 at 12:29:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 07, 2001 at 04:19:00, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On November 07, 2001 at 04:04:47, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 07, 2001 at 01:48:40, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 07, 2001 at 01:27:01, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I want to see a tournament of programs and not a tournament  that is also of
>>>>>operators.
>>>>
>>>>You can run those for yourself.
>>>>
>>>>The whole *point* of the Dutch open and similar competitions is that
>>>>it's a competition between programmers IMHO.
>>>
>>>I know that it is a competition between programmers but
>>>the exact competition except operator time
>>>can be done on ICC with changing the book or the program
>>>between games.
>>
>>Absolutely not.
>>
>>There is a big difference between meeting your opponent
>>in real life, and being able to discuss (yes, that's possible
>>on a server too, but its not the same) what and how the
>>programs work and evaluate the position.
>>
>>A real event is much more exciting than an internet event,
>>just because of actually meeting the people behind the machines.
>>
>>This is also why I think it's very important the author is
>>present.
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>Note that I advocate an automatic interface to eliminate the human during
>the game...  but that I do _not_ advocate no programmers attending.  The
>tournament (IMHO) would be held exactly as it has been held, except the
>programs gathered together use an auto-interface to send moves and get clock
>updates, rather than depending on a human.  This leaves _more_ time for the
>humans to exchange ideas, discuss _all_ the active games, and enjoy the event
>more...

It's a great idea, I would love it. And probably it wouldn't be too hard to make
it possible to follow the games LIVE at the internet, big improvement for the
public. And especially for programmers who cannot be at the tournament for some
reason (had that once, no fun at all seeing only 1-0).

Hope they pick it up in Leiden or Paderborn.

Bas.
















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