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Subject: Re: Crafty 18.12 vs CM8000(32M) 12 games PGN

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 16:38:50 11/08/01

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On November 08, 2001 at 11:58:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 08, 2001 at 02:48:14, Odd Gunnar Malin wrote:
>
>>On November 07, 2001 at 21:53:28, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>Here are 12 games played at 40/40 minutes.  Crafty played on an Athlon 1.4G and
>>>CM8K played on an Athlon 1.2G.  Final score was 6.5-5.5 for CM8K.  After 70
>>>games at 40/40 or 40/60 it looks like Crafty 18.12(K7) is not as strong as
>>>Crafty 18.10.  I wonder if others are having similar results?
>>>
>>
>>Result after 6 rounds are CM8000-Crafty 4-2
>>
>>I Checked a little on this in SSDF's list.
>>Result after 6 round is in brackets.
>>
>>CM8000-DeepFritz 7.5-32.5 (3-3)
>>CM8000-Junior 5  13.5-26.5 (2.5-3.5)
>>CM8000-Hiarcs7.32 23.5-16.5 (4.5-1.5)
>>
>>Is the SSDF's rating only valid for match play between computers?
>>Or is it a ratinglist on how good the booklearning is?
>
>
>Simple.  When a "contest" is held, using a set of known rules and so forth,
>human nature is to take advantage of the contest rules themselves, as much as
>you try to take advantage of normal chess rules.  In long matches between two
>programs, book learning is _the_ edge.  In tournaments, it has no influence to
>speak of.  So SSDF ratings don't say a lot about how the top 10 programs on
>the list would end up in (say) a round-robin tournament.

I believe that most programs have similiar learning and chessmaster8000 that
have no learning is an exception.

I believe that there is not going to be a big difference in a round-robin
tournament.

I do not say that the ranking is going to be the same but it is going to be
similiar with a possible exception of programs with no learning function.

Uri




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