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Subject: Re: What EXACTLY is wrong with Fritz7 GUI ??

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 01:28:34 11/09/01

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On November 08, 2001 at 19:42:22, William Penn wrote:

>On November 08, 2001 at 18:40:05, Tina Long wrote:
>
>>On November 08, 2001 at 15:50:58, Sally Weltrop wrote:
>>
>>>I've seen posts here on the "problems" with Fritz7 GUI so what is it EXACTLY
>>>that is wrong with it because it has seriously made me stop and think before I
>>>buy it. I assumed it was just the GUI that was buggy but is the engine acting
>>>weird and such. Any info would be appreciated.
>>
>>I second that request.  I've had my StepFather's credit card sitting beside the
>>computer for a week, but have been scared off so far.
>>
>>We don't want to buy F7 just to put the engine in Hiarcs732 & ignore the new
>>GUI.  This is a lot of money$AU for us, & I'm inclined to wait for Hiarcs8 or
>>Rebel(next) instead.
>>
>>Thanks guys
>>Tina Long
>
>I had several problems with the Fritz 7 graphic user interface (GUI). For
>example I couldn't kill the clocks in layouts. If I saved a layout then reloaded
>it, the clocks always came back. Also, when starting the program it asked if I
>wanted to play Fritz 7 or play chess online. I am only interested in Fritz 7, so
>that required an unnecessary mouse click. Also, the
>Fritz 7 interface did not allow me to choose between the Fritz 7 (with MMX) and
>Fritz 7 (No MMX) engines. It hid the distinction between those two engines and
>always selected the slower Fritz 7 (with MMX) engine -- which my tests indicate
>may be buggy!? With Fritz 7 (the MMX engine version) I found several examples of
>very stupid blunders in the analysis in Infinite Analysis mode involving the
>Queens, such as giving away one's Queen, or failing to capture opponent's Queen.
>Fritz 7 (with MMX) also tends to "hang" on a particular variation/move, or take
>a long time in Infinite Analysis mode (similar to HiArcs 7.32), so doesn't seem
>very well suited for correspondence chess analysis of an hour or more. Also,
>Fritz 7 did not appear in Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs, so there is
>apparently no way to uninstall it cleanly. Also, it did not fix the old
>longstanding Fritz GUI display bug for kN/s when the number goes over 1,000,000.
>Finally, I note that it required 572MB of hard disk space which seems very
>greedy. However I guess most of that is the database which could be deleted, or
>copied to a CD. Bottom line: I like the Deep Fritz interface better, so I went
>back to it. The Fritz 7 (with MMX) engine seems unreliable, but the Fritz 7 (no
>MMX) engine looks OK so far in my tests. I'm running W98se, and don't know what
>happens with other windows versions.
>WP

I have noticed all of the above too in my version of F7 and i would like to add
a few to the list, when analyzing in the F7 GUI it does not display how long it
has used to ponder a move, the publish function works, but barely, it creates no
.pgn file of the games played and it does not refresh the games automatically.
Actually in general the publish function is really poor in most CB GUI's.

Regards
Jonas



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