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Subject: Re: One mate to solve for Champions!

Author: leonid

Date: 05:27:36 11/09/01

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On November 09, 2001 at 06:51:32, Heiner Marxen wrote:

>On November 07, 2001 at 12:43:00, leonid wrote:
>
>>On November 07, 2001 at 12:00:27, Paul wrote:
>>
>>>On November 07, 2001 at 08:23:57, leonid wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi!
>>>>
>>>>I hope that your program will do better that mine on this position. For mine it
>>>>went slow on selective and brute force search. At the same time position look
>>>>like very usual.
>>>>
>>>>[D]qrkrqqbq/2b5/2q5/QBpNRN2/2n2Q2/2n2P2/2p2B2/QRqQQKQR w - -
>>>>
>>>>Please indicate your result.
>>>
>>>Well, mine is certainly even slower than yours on this position. My old settings
>>>found the following on my p3/1000:
>>>
>>>03:49 WM13 09 Qxc7+ Qxc7 Nde7+ Qexe7 Nxe7+ Qfxe7 Qgg4+ Be6 Qxe6+ Qxe6 Bd7+ Qcxd7
>>>Rxc5+ Qec6 Rxb8+ Qxb8 Qxd7+ Rxd7 Qa6+ Qb7 Rxh8+ Rd8 Rxc6+ Kd7 Qxb7#
>>>
>>>Then I checked my new settings, and they showed this:
>>>
>>>07:34 WM12 10 Qxc7+ Qxc7 Nde7+ Qexe7 Nxe7+ Qfxe7 Qgg4+ Be6 Qxe6+ Qxe6 Bd7+ Qexd7
>>>Qxd7+ Qxd7 Rxc5+ Qdc6 Rxc6+ Qxc6 Rxb8+ Kd7 Qa7+ Qb7 Qxb7#
>>>
>>>So a shorter mate in a longer time. It seems mine likes positions where the
>>>pieces are closer together better ... this one's too spacey ... ;)
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>This is very often seen case with selective search where some selective way will
>>demand more moves to see but will waist less time. Less time since conditions
>>are more restrictive. Best selective search (in my mind) is the search that will
>>find shortest move for the most competitive time.
>>
>>Your time is all the time excellent and pretty closed to mine. Since your use
>>program that is not exactly mate solver, you do better that me.
>>
>>My selective found mate in 12 moves in 3 min and 15 sec.
>
>This time Chest is not very helpful:  After 7.6 hours (K7/600, 350 MB)
>it finds "No solution in 9 moves."  Some timing info:

Thanks, Heiner!

Mine stopped on 8 moves that took already 1 hour and 27 min. With the branching
factor that jumped between 7 and 8 move already to almost 14, no more
expectation to reach something practical.

Cheers,
Leonid.


>#  1      0.00s                 0kN           0.87          1-         0
>#  2      0.00s                 0kN           1.00          1-         0
>#  3      0.02s                 1kN [ 13.89]  0.96         89-         0
>#  4      0.21s [ 10.50]       11kN [  8.07]  1.05       1035-         0
>#  5      2.22s [ 10.57]      123kN [ 11.50]  1.16      10357-         0
>#  6     28.74s [ 12.95]     1677kN [ 13.69]  1.30     161321-         0
>#  7    233.52s [  8.13]    13616kN [  8.12]  1.51    1382588-         1
>#  8   2440.23s [ 10.45]   136971kN [ 10.06]  1.71   14417931-   5699832
>#  9  27315.27s [ 11.19]  1486887kN [ 10.86]  1.83  162324161- 153576260
>
>An EBF around 10 is a bit too much for more depth.
>
>Einen schönen Tag noch,
>Heiner



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