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Subject: Re: KIller/Moves.

Author: Frank Phillips

Date: 03:27:01 11/10/01

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On November 09, 2001 at 18:27:05, Tony Werten wrote:

>On November 09, 2001 at 14:07:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 09, 2001 at 09:44:14, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>On November 09, 2001 at 09:40:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 09, 2001 at 02:16:49, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 08, 2001 at 18:04:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 08, 2001 at 14:46:15, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 08, 2001 at 12:01:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On November 08, 2001 at 07:45:59, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On November 07, 2001 at 15:51:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On November 07, 2001 at 12:22:05, William Dozier wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Good day to all of you, Question: Is there a killer book for black? Is there a
>>>>>>>>>>>book for black, so it can counter all the white moves. When does the table base
>>>>>>>>>>>start kicking in; in crafty?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I doubt that there is any "killer book" for black or white, assuming your
>>>>>>>>>>opponent does his homework.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>tablebases start getting hit when there are around 16 pieces left on the board,
>>>>>>>>>>most of the time.  Others might get different results of course.  I have seen
>>>>>>>>>>hits with 20 pieces left...  but not very often.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>With all extensions turned on i get hits from openings position
>>>>>>>>>already after a night of search with big hashtable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Overnight that is possible.  I interpreted it as "during a real game".  :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Depends on where you probe. I probe everywhere and have seen tablebasehits with
>>>>>>>30 pieces on the board in 3 minute searches. Useless but funny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What happens when you get into 8-10 piece endings?  Does your speed die?  I
>>>>>>did that early on and actually lost winnable games, because I slowed down so
>>>>>>bad the search depth was not enough to reach won positions.  IE from 100K it
>>>>>>would drop to 1-5K...
>>>>>
>>>>>If I have a 10 ply search I will probe the first 10 ply on harddisk, for the
>>>>>rest I use my own tablebaseformat wich stores the 4 and 3 pieces in memory,
>>>>>making probing not more expensive than an evaluation.
>>>>>
>>>>>At the dutch open I set up a testposition with 6 pieces and still got 1Mn/s on a
>>>>>AMD 1700+
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony

Is there any way to do this with Nalimov ETGBs under Linux?  My search often
dies with table access - 21knps from several hundred thousand.  I try to
convince myself that the perfect information is worth the penalty on average.

Frank



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