Author: Arturo Ochoa
Date: 14:27:02 11/10/01
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On November 10, 2001 at 15:26:37, Uri Blass wrote: >On November 10, 2001 at 14:31:32, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On November 10, 2001 at 13:56:55, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >> >>with all respect Jonas, >> >>but please look at the bloody nonsense lines the engines play. >>How can you take that serious? Also Fritz doesn't seem to be >>learning at all, nor does Junior. Did you turn off learning? >> >>Opening like 1.d4,d5 2.nf3,a6 > >please look at the result >Junior won that game with black so maybe it was not so bad for it. I took a look to the complete game and I cannot say that this is typical Fritz Games of the pretty tested Book, so the result is valid for enjoyment and I cannot conclude that is an appropiated line for the Junior style or it can win with this line. I can conclude that the line is "so bad for it", if after 50 games with long time control, Junior can get a 50% result against the Fritz standard book. > >If 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 a6 is enough for Junior to beat other programs then maybe it >should try it in every game. I would have to check all the line with 2. ... a6, so I can say that this moves can refuse the move 2. Nf3, but it is better to take a look to all the opening and find the blunder. I mean about 15 moves. It must considered any transposition to a main line, but I haven't checked this game. > >> >>How for **** sake can you present this as fritz-junior games? > >The games were played between Fritz and Junior >If both engines do not learn then it seems that the conditions are equal. The conditions are not equal because the Match was run in three parts. Johan has pointed out that he could have forgot to unable the capacity learning in one of the parts of the Match. My conclusion: the condicions are not equals during all the Match. > >If you say that the conditions are different from the conditions in the ssdf >games then I agree but it does not mean that the games mean nothing unless the >only meaning of the games is to try to predict ssdf rating of Fritz7. I cannot predict the Rating of Fritz7 with this Match using a random book. To predict a Fritx7 rating, it should be used the standar Fritz Book. So, I cannot conclude anything about this Match and that is an only enjoyment Match. Best wishes, A8A. > >Uri
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