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Subject: Re: How strong is Chess Tiger on Palm ?

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 18:56:14 11/10/01

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On November 10, 2001 at 18:13:02, Peter Berger wrote:

>On November 10, 2001 at 14:54:04, Thomas Mayer wrote:
>
>>Hi Christophe,
>>
>>> So we are both repeating that the comparison was useless? Great.
>>
>>I subscribe this without any problem... :)
>
>OK - but you are both absolutely wrong IMHO. If Tiger 14.6 on a Palm Vx plays
>against engines with a calibrated rating on an Athlon 1333 close enough to its
>own real rating you will get completely reasonable numbers. I started this just
>for fun but after thinking about it seriously I am sure this is simply right and
>I will play some more games and show it if time allows( in fact I already did
>start to play against the opponents you suggested, Thomas).



I think you are right Peter, and I will have to retract my above statement.

The comparison is worth it if the engines, on their respective hardware, are of
comparable strength (in the range of +/-150 elo for example).

It does not matter if one is running on Athlon 1500 and the other one on
DragonBall 16MHz.

What I think is not worth it is to compare engines when the strength is too
different.




>>> So I still have to understand what was the point of your initial post...
>>
>>To show that any engine on Athlon 1333 can not be compared with any engine on
>>much lower hardware. Not when you try to get after that some estimate how they
>>will do against humans...
>>But well, I might be wrong... But it's my opinion... So far nothing show me that
>>I am wrong...
>
>The data in question doesn't support your point of view so far at all, does it ?
>Maybe you are right but I seriously doubt it.
>
>This morning I watched an interesting game D-Chess - Tiger with the usual
>hardware difference. The Tiger got outsearched all the time. Yet it won .
>
>a.) D-Chess grabbed a pawn on h7 with a bishop that could be trapped.
>b.) Tiger knew exactly which kind of KPK ending is won .



I'm glad to see that these pieces of knowledge are working well after all!



    Christophe




>I don't know if similar things would be observed in games against humans but as
>we have _no_ data to discuss here currently it's a little pointless anyway.
>
>pete



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