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Subject: Re: Fritz 7 v Junior 7 has ended (24 games pgn, long)

Author: Jonas Cohonas

Date: 05:28:46 11/11/01

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On November 11, 2001 at 08:09:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On November 10, 2001 at 16:03:19, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>
>
>
>>On November 10, 2001 at 14:31:32, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On November 10, 2001 at 13:56:55, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>with all respect Jonas,
>>>
>>>but please look at the bloody nonsense lines the engines play.
>>>How can you take that serious? Also Fritz doesn't seem to be
>>>learning at all, nor does Junior. Did you turn off learning?
>>>
>>>Opening like 1.d4,d5 2.nf3,a6
>>>
>>>How for **** sake can you present this as fritz-junior games?
>>>
>>>
>>I ran the match in 3 parts and i might have forgotten to turn on book learn in
>>one of those, but i am quite sure that i did not forget.
>>
>>I use the default book for the engine tested against other opponents and for the
>>opponents i use a book generated from 2600.pgn which means: shorter openeing
>>lines and more exotic openings to avoid the same ol' openings we see all the
>>time.
>>
>>This is not an attempt to run perfect games, with perfect lines that suit you
>>Vincent, this is purely an experiment, take it or leave it.
>>And with all respect Vincent, grow up!!
>
>You write 'the match', without giving any condition of the
>match obviously! No i don't need to grow up. You are not able
>to run a normal a normal test.
>
>Under normal conditions fritz usually scores 60% against junior7,
>but seldom loses a match.
>
>On paper it's possible to get other results, but hardly happens unless
>you change match conditions.
>
>Fritz has weaknesses of course, without book and booklearning its nowhere.
>
>>Regards
>>Jonas

Like i said "i am quite sure that i did not forget"
I never claimed these games i have run so far to be scientifically correct
Vincent.
I have seen Junior 7 win over Fritz 7 before and vice versa.
Let's say that i forgot to switch on booklearning in one of those 3 parts, then
it would be equal for both engines and not just "bad" for Fritz, also booklearn
does not have that great an impact on the final result as you claim.

Regards
Jonas



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