Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 05:36:22 11/11/01
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On November 10, 2001 at 19:22:43, Jonas Cohonas wrote: What i mean is that others might conclude now that the exotic book is ok, whereas against Kure tournament book it gets completely slaughtered in a way history has seldom seen. Best regards, Vincent >On November 10, 2001 at 17:14:14, Arturo Ochoa wrote: > >>On November 10, 2001 at 16:03:19, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >> >>>On November 10, 2001 at 14:31:32, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On November 10, 2001 at 13:56:55, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>>> >>>>with all respect Jonas, >>>> >>>>but please look at the bloody nonsense lines the engines play. >>>>How can you take that serious? Also Fritz doesn't seem to be >>>>learning at all, nor does Junior. Did you turn off learning? >>>> >>>>Opening like 1.d4,d5 2.nf3,a6 >>>> >>>>How for **** sake can you present this as fritz-junior games? >>>> >>>> >>>I ran the match in 3 parts and i might have forgotten to turn on book learn in >>>one of those, but i am quite sure that i did not forget. >> >>Hello: >> >>How can you run a Match where you forget the learning capacity in one part of >>the Match?? > >Easily :) > >>Interesting Matches (This is my opinion) are: 1) A Match with the Fritz Book >>capacities learning enabled; 2) A Match with the Fritz Book capacities learning >>unabled. > >Interesting too > >>If you run a Computer Match, you shouldn't change the initial conditions after >>the Match has been started up. > >If i infact forgot to check the booklearning box in one part of the match, it >was not intentionally, i always run these matches with booklearn. > >>>I use the default book for the engine tested against other opponents and for the >>>opponents i use a book generated from 2600.pgn which means: shorter openeing >>>lines and more exotic openings to avoid the same ol' openings we see all the >>>time. >> >>A random opening book has the problem of many blunders and it cannot mean you >>have more exotic openings. If you generate a book from a pgn file, Fritz will >>save the statistics about the opening lines. Then, you can have the same main >>openings of the standard book with more blunders. > >Junior 7 using the 2600.ctg (exotic book) won the match 14.5 - 9.5 > >>It would be interesting, if you can generate a book from a pgn file of a >>specific opening line. For example: the mentioned Sicilian "Exotic" Line. >>And see the result after 24 games. It would be really interesting to see 24 >>games with a weird Sicilian line!!! :) > >Yes indeed :) > >>>This is not an attempt to run perfect games, with perfect lines that suit you >>>Vincent, this is purely an experiment, take it or leave it. >>>And with all respect Vincent, grow up!! >> >>I agree that this is not an attempt of the perfection but this cannot be >>consider a "pure experiment", when you haven't controled the most important >>variables of this Match to publish this result. > >Well shame on me :) > >>I understand perfectly what Vincent means and there's no matter of growing up >>keeping like a child. > >It is his tone, not the actual content of his post i was reffering to, he is >entitled to his own opinion. I did not run this match to offend anyone! > >Regards >Jonas
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