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Subject: Re: Heat problems and System security

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 08:25:50 11/12/01

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On November 12, 2001 at 07:33:42, Torstein Hall wrote:

>On November 11, 2001 at 22:20:54, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On November 11, 2001 at 19:04:45, Torstein Hall wrote:
>>
>>>On November 11, 2001 at 18:40:46, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 11, 2001 at 16:53:59, Dan Andersson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Thera are no AMD heating problems. On purely technical merits a top of the line
>>>>>AMD system is superior to an Intel system. The main reasons can only be for
>>>>>marketing reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>>MvH Dan Andersson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think you need to back that up with proof, and I will say that Intel DOES run
>>>>cooler at equal and even higher Mgh. also they are probably more advanced than
>>>>the German Manufacture AMD!
>>>>
>>>>Let AMD run a test of 1.5 Terahertz! Hah!
>>>>
>>>>http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q3/010917/heatvideo-05.html#download_the_first_toms_hardware_test_lab_video
>>>>
>>>>Did you even read the article?
>>>>
>>>>Terry
>>>
>>>AMD has solved this issue. If you want to pay more money for less PC, then thats
>>>your Intel option! :-)
>>>
>>>Torstein
>>
>>If it's fixed, and I read the rest of the report, it still isn't ready for mass
>>marketing.
>>
>>That's the only reason that IBM and Co. have moved with the P-4.
>>
>>Tell me Torstein, exactly how many rating points to you expect to achieve
>>with an AMD at 1.8Ghz over the P-4 at 2.0 Ghz? 30 pts. maybe? I expect to have a faster PC in general, if l also get 30pts extra its fine with me!
>
>>
>>Also, for what the P-4 was designed for does an excellent job, I know I've seen
>>a 1.4Ghz model and it's better than a P-III in most respects.
>>
>>I'm not saying the P-4 is faster or as fast as AMD in chess calculations but
>>it's far from a "Primitive" CPU!
>Of course it is not a simple CPU, its just not best value for money at the
>moment.
>>
>>Next year Intel will introduce the Northwood core starting at 2.2Ghz.
>>
>>The processor is still under developent and in the near future may outpace
>>AMD even for chess programming.
>>
>>
>>It's a brand new design, so Intel will continue to improve the processor.
>
>When PlV is clocked higher than say 2.5ghz its probably better thaƱ what AMD can
>do with the Athlon. But that's in the future, we have to look at what we can buy
>now!
>
>Torstein
>Posted from my pocket PC

Ok I agree that it's the fastest chip for a PC you can buy for chess.
I've already mentioned that!

Please tell me what rating gains are acutually achieved with the Athlon.
I guessed 30pts. so is that a fair guess? Please answer the question.

I hope to buy a new PC next year sometime, and I excpect I'll buy an IBM,
and if they stick with the P-4 then I may have no choice unless AMD is
back in business with them.

Terry....still using an IBM Aptiva, P-III 500 from 1999:)
>>
>>It's too early to say AMD is "Superior" in all respects. People hate Intel, they
>>own 80% of the market!
>>
>>I own an IBM, people who didn't cut it down, people who knew something about
>>IBM, other owners had a different story.
>>
>>IBM is a well made PC period. Intel does make quality processors, and you can
>>take it to the bank:)
>>
>>Terry



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