Author: Torstein Hall
Date: 13:07:04 11/12/01
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On November 12, 2001 at 11:25:50, Terry McCracken wrote: >On November 12, 2001 at 07:33:42, Torstein Hall wrote: > >>On November 11, 2001 at 22:20:54, Terry McCracken wrote: >> >>>On November 11, 2001 at 19:04:45, Torstein Hall wrote: >>> >>>>On November 11, 2001 at 18:40:46, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 11, 2001 at 16:53:59, Dan Andersson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Thera are no AMD heating problems. On purely technical merits a top of the line >>>>>>AMD system is superior to an Intel system. The main reasons can only be for >>>>>>marketing reasons. >>>>>> >>>>>>MvH Dan Andersson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I think you need to back that up with proof, and I will say that Intel DOES run >>>>>cooler at equal and even higher Mgh. also they are probably more advanced than >>>>>the German Manufacture AMD! >>>>> >>>>>Let AMD run a test of 1.5 Terahertz! Hah! >>>>> >>>>>http://www4.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q3/010917/heatvideo-05.html#download_the_first_toms_hardware_test_lab_video >>>>> >>>>>Did you even read the article? >>>>> >>>>>Terry >>>> >>>>AMD has solved this issue. If you want to pay more money for less PC, then thats >>>>your Intel option! :-) >>>> >>>>Torstein >>> >>>If it's fixed, and I read the rest of the report, it still isn't ready for mass >>>marketing. >>> >>>That's the only reason that IBM and Co. have moved with the P-4. >>> >>>Tell me Torstein, exactly how many rating points to you expect to achieve >>>with an AMD at 1.8Ghz over the P-4 at 2.0 Ghz? 30 pts. maybe? I expect to have a faster PC in general, if l also get 30pts extra its fine with me! >> >>> >>>Also, for what the P-4 was designed for does an excellent job, I know I've seen >>>a 1.4Ghz model and it's better than a P-III in most respects. >>> >>>I'm not saying the P-4 is faster or as fast as AMD in chess calculations but >>>it's far from a "Primitive" CPU! >>Of course it is not a simple CPU, its just not best value for money at the >>moment. >>> >>>Next year Intel will introduce the Northwood core starting at 2.2Ghz. >>> >>>The processor is still under developent and in the near future may outpace >>>AMD even for chess programming. >>> >>> >>>It's a brand new design, so Intel will continue to improve the processor. >> >>When PlV is clocked higher than say 2.5ghz its probably better thañ what AMD can >>do with the Athlon. But that's in the future, we have to look at what we can buy >>now! >> >>Torstein >>Posted from my pocket PC > >Ok I agree that it's the fastest chip for a PC you can buy for chess. >I've already mentioned that! > >Please tell me what rating gains are acutually achieved with the Athlon. >I guessed 30pts. so is that a fair guess? Please answer the question. I think 30pts is a just as fair guess as anyone can give. To really say something about it I think you need to check the same prog. on the two configurations and check how much deeper you search or perhaps the NPS. Someone probably has a scale for rating vs search speed. I think double speed maybe is about 60 elo pts. Torstein >I hope to buy a new PC next year sometime, and I excpect I'll buy an IBM, >and if they stick with the P-4 then I may have no choice unless AMD is >back in business with them. > >Terry....still using an IBM Aptiva, P-III 500 from 1999:) >>> >>>It's too early to say AMD is "Superior" in all respects. People hate Intel, they >>>own 80% of the market! >>> >>>I own an IBM, people who didn't cut it down, people who knew something about >>>IBM, other owners had a different story. >>> >>>IBM is a well made PC period. Intel does make quality processors, and you can >>>take it to the bank:) >>> >>>Terry
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